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Ken H
12-31-2003, 05:26 PM
I have a "problem" leg that acts up when I do KB clean & jerks, especially the long cycle where you drop the KBs between your legs and clean them back to the rack position before launching (jerking) them overhead. The problem can be exacerbated when using 32kg KBs. It may just be a problem with overtraining, but I don't think so. Right now the problem is lack of flexion -- i.e., it's painful (7 out of 10) for me to grab my right ankle & hold it while extending my leg to the rear (in 4cBD). I can sit on my knees, but it's too painful to "descend" into the "seiza" position.

I know the problem will go away, because it's responding to WW & 4cBDrills Coach Sonnon has prescribed in the past. But I'd like to eliminate the problem altogether, rather than have it flare up during or after training. I know part of the solution is to figure out what I'm doing -- or have done -- that has caused the problem and then work those kinetic chains.

I also recall Coach Sonnon talking about the rehabilitative/strengthening effect isometrics can have on joints & related musculature, I'm sort of feeling my way through what I can do to tense & release various muscles/joints. I do this statically initially to actually discover the ways to contract & release and then dynamically -- with motion wherever possible.

Does anyone have any resources (books, tapes, web sites) you can point me to on using dynamic isometrics or any other method for rehabbing recurring injuries -- that is, until Coach Sonnon's books/tapes on Z and chain diagnostics become available?

Thx much,

Ken

bob_stra
12-31-2003, 10:06 PM
Some very strange stuff is happening with these CST forums. I have a bright idea, or discuss something with a friend and *viola* someone else is talking abt the EXACT same issue here. Kooky.

Just yesterday I was discussing this topic with a friend who had a bum shoulder.

Anyway, if you go here -

http://pub58.ezboard.com/BBSForum.showForumSearch?boardName=bodyweightboard&forumName=bodyweightboardfrm1


and type in Isometrics as you "Search word". Check "allow for partial matching" and choose search in "entire message" from the scroll box, you should be able to find what your after.

(eg)

http://pub58.ezboard.com/fbodyweightboardfrm1.showMessage?topicID=1899.topi c

Scott Sonnon
01-01-2004, 12:38 PM
Ken,

This event has persisted for quite awhile if I remember correctly. Am I right?

Even younger men cannot afford to irresponsibly override a painful issue, though they often do with "suddenly surprising" injuries resulting from "unrelated" activities.

Take an indefinite hiatus from strength training until you discharge this muscular tension. Until you totally resolve this event, with each repetition you perform, you reinforce and compound the issue. Remember the Laws of Conditioning (in CT4CS and Body-Flow): every act specifically conditions us regardless of if we value the outcome(s).

It could require 2 weeks; it could require 2 months. But regardless of the duration, if you fail to do so, you nearly guarantee yourself eventual serious injury. You need to go tabula rasa before resuming training. Without that "clean slate" any condition worsens with each workout session.

Sometimes more is less. Sometimes only a complete break from training lends you the investigatory clarity to understand a training issue. IOW: training sometimes conceals the issue from proprioceptive awareness; the noise of your training may be drowning out a clear signal of the painful event.

This may be the reason that Warrior Wellness temporarily releases reappearance of your painful event, but doesn't permanently discharge the issue. You may feel fine, but you need more time free from the reinforcing and compounding conditioning of your training.

Freedom by Degree will finally be released in one week and provides the Poise Assessment tools I developed which may aid in increasing the granularity of your discernment and rapidity of your full recovery.

Keep us advised on your progress.

Ken H
01-01-2004, 05:18 PM
Coach Sonnon and Bob:

Thx much. Will heed your advice & report back in.

Ken

Shaf
01-14-2004, 08:30 AM
I typed in that link and POW, it goes right to a post I made.

Shaf

bob_stra
01-14-2004, 09:43 AM
I typed in that link and POW, it goes right to a post I made.

Shaf

Consider yourself a world famous authority ;-)

Good post BTW. I'd stop over at Bodyweight and AA more often, but I have to open IE, whcih takes forever to load on this old sh*tbox....

Shaf
01-14-2004, 10:28 AM
I like to disperse information I find useful. I am eclectic in my internet wanderings, and find a lot of stuff that might interest others who have less disposable time available.