A little discovery (shall we call it club juggling? )

[bob_stra]

I was fooling around today at the end of my workout and I think I may have come up with something interesting. Sort of a " dynamic" juggling / pinch gripping variant.

Stop me if you've heard this one before ;-)

Grip clubbell by the fat end. Just one clubbell.

Drop it. As you drop it, catch with other hand. Note - Do *not* throw it.

Stage 2 - use the "tendon wrap" idea from IOUF to catch (pinky first)

Stage 3 - introduce box step while performing all previous steps.

Stage 4 - drop from different heights, speeds, angles. Catch club both vertically and horizontally.

Stage 5 - catch at different places on club (choking up / down).

Stage 6 - ?? use two clubs ?? (haven't tried that yet)

For me, this was an interesting way to explore some IOUF ideas. I suspect others have discovered similar ideas.

[bob_stra]

I hope no one minds if I keep this thread going?

Just finished my "play out". Here some new things I discovered.

(1)Judo uchikomi -

I started doing some lunges (death march). For fun, I tried using a homolateral pattern (same side arm : same side leg) combo. Normally, when lunging I assume the standard walking pattern (opposite arm : leg swing). Homolaterally was fun but I got sick of it - the perfect time to do something else.

Next I started doing diagonal lunges (at 45 degree angles). First contra-lateral (opposite arm:leg, like walking) going backwards, then opposite arm:leg going forwards. Felt vaguely familiar to me. Lo and behold - if you turn 90 degrees while lunging forwards (semi circle), you create a similar sensation to performing *any* manner of semi circular footsweeps. Most strongly I was reminded of the hand:leg action for sasae tsuri komigoshi, hiza guruma and the nage no kata version of uchi mata.

Start with both feet shoulder width apart. Swing club back. As club comes up, step the same side leg fwd as the other one moves in a semi circle backwards. You catch the club in the side pendulum lunge position. The lunge isn't fantastically deep.

If that's double dutch, here's some pics -

Sasae
http://www.judoinfo.com/images/animations/sasaetsu.gif


Hiza
http://www.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/hizaguruma.htm

Uchi mata - imagine making a semi curcular move prior to perfroming ...
http://www.judoinfo.com/images/nauta/uchimat1.gif


(2) Did you know its possible to do an armpit cast while doing a (lateral) shoulder cast with the other hand? Yeah, it's kinda silly, but... fun ;-) The upside is that the clubs tend to clonk together much less than when performing a "iron cross" (double shoulder cast).

(3) Almost all of the Z health shoulder exercise can be done with clubs. I played with the "piston arms" for a while.

(4) If you've seen IOUF, you'll recall the "renovated shoulder throw" Scott shows. Yes, this too can be done with clubs! From call to order, point the club outwards 45 degrees while pushing away from your body. Your wrist turns upwards. A familiar figure 8. Then simply place the club behind you as in the end position for the head cast. I suppose you could use the taisabaki idea from (1) to really get the shoulder throw idea (no idea, haven't played with it yet).

Clear as mud ;-)

Clubbells - fun to play with ;-)

Also, I want to appologize to everyone. It doesn't look like I'll have that crepatus article done by next CST issue (?15th?). Everytime I sit down to research / write, some interrupts! So, you have my family and friends to blame ;-) On the upside, the extra time should allow for a better finished product.

*edited for clarity*

[Scott Sonnon]

Bob,

Your ideas sound great. I'll give your exercises a swing.

[bob_stra]

Here's the latest batch of kookiness

(1) Deathmarch cast

As you do the forward lunge, the club comes to call to order.
From here, take it into the armpit cast position.
As you move out of lunge (back to feet parallel) cast to order.
Let clubbell swing out as you move back into lunge.

I bet thousands of you have discovered that one, but it was new to me.

(2) In the shoulder cast, I find that the best way to stop the momentum is not to tense the shoulder, but the lat. The arm is quite passive. Elbow lock out is not required, but you can allow it to happen for extra leverage. Again, new to me, probably not to you.

(3) Yes, you can do more dumb IOUF related clubbell stunts. Today I played with using the club as a leg for me to post, reap, trip, hook etc. The "side kick" idea is readily applicable, but all in all, this wasn't very fruitful. Perhaps worth another shot. When I'm drunk ;-)

(4) clubbell skiing (? reverse wrist cast)

I started out doing the standard forward leverage, then decided to do some wrist casts. I found that the higher the elbow was, the more difficult it became to do the cast. To most difficult was when my arm nearly approximated the "drinking from a cup" position.

Anyhow, the fun stuff came after that.

(1) Place your *hand* in the call to order position, elbow pinched. Now, instead of the heavy end of the club pointing up, have it pointing down. You can imagine it as having the clubbell upside down. The configuration kinda reminds me of doing a dumbbell hammer curl.

(2) Swing your arm down (extend) so that it's by your side. The head of the club points directly behind you, parallel to ground.

(3) Leaving your arm as is, curl the club towards the back of your forearm. Try and touch it.

(4) Swing back thru the "inverse call to order"

(5) From (4) bring the clubbell up so that it almost looks like a javelin, ready to be throw. The heavy end points away from you. The gripping end of the club / knob rest high on your chest. Imagine your trying to stab someone with the club in bad, cartoon style. (the Jim Carey SNL Karate skit comes to mind ;-)

Note: As I swung from 3 to 4, the action was somewhat reminiscent of a hammer curl. Going 4 to 5, I visualized pushing up the neck of the club, infact using my tricep. Kind of like doing an upwards muay thai elbow strike. All in all, when done smoothly, steps 1-5 form a kind of skiing motion.

Note 2: I suppose you could go into an armpit cast position, clubbell facing wrong way and all. I don't recommend this - I found the whole thing quite unstable.

Like I said, new to me but probably old hat to all of you. I'm thinking next I'd like to try some clubbell neck exercise. I have some ideas and that's never a good thing :twisted:

[Scott Sonnon]

After the OCS championships, I'll take your exercises for a spin. Sounds grouse to me, Dr. B.

[bob_stra]

After the OCS championships, I'll take your exercises for a spin. Sounds grouse to me, Dr. B.

*gulp*

Well, that's a mighty big task, keeping the inventor of CST amused. I better think of some *really* off the wall stuff.

/sounds of mice running in wheel/

[Scott Sonnon]

:lol:

Don't be so serious, amigo. From what I know of you, you've always been conchy (even when we disagreed in the past, I respected your points). I came up with all this through experimentation. I'll try anything once. Why do you think I called together a "Tribe?" The discovery and progression rate is so much greater experimenting together.

[lorenzodamarith]

armpit cast

hello,

well necromancy is not a lost art today.....

bob stra? armpit cast? what is this?

this looks like interesting material.

coach sonnon? what was your final verdict on this? did you ever get to try it, and if so, what did you think?

thanks

[Coach Billew]

Lorenzo,

"Arm pit cast" is the old name for what is now just called an arm cast.