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JasonE
01-04-2004, 03:20 PM
I've had the mixed luck of experiencing many minor (and a few major) injuries over the years, and these are some observations that I'd like to share with the Tribe. Please post reactions/comments/feedback on any or all of them. I learn so much from reading what others have to say on these boards!

1. Bromelain is GOOD: When I had my right knee scoped in '99, the surgeon recommended Percoset for the pain, and 800 mg of Ibuprofen 3x daily for the swelling. :!: I took 1 Percoset and tossed the rest, figuring 2400 mg of Ibuprofen would take care of the pain as well. The swelling wasn't subsiding very quickly, however.

A few days later, I saw my chiropractor, who is excellent. He recommended dumping the Ibuprofen in favor of Bromelain, a pineapple enzyme sold in Health Food stores. He said that high doses of Ibuprofen retard cartilage regeneration (which is what I needed), and that Bromelain was better for swelling. I switched over, the swelling went down super-fast, and when my surgeon checked out my knee the next couple of times, he said the joint was healing 3x faster than it should have. :D

2. Static stretches are virtually Worthless: Especially for recovering from injuries. I've gotten lots more benefit from PNF aka "Contract-Relax" methods, especially following a tear of the right Iliopsoas. For safe solo and partner variations, the best resource I found was "Stretching & Flexibility" by Kit Laughlin. I've just recently been exposed to Pavel Tsatsouline's methods, and now I am starting to learn about Coach Sonnen's methods, which seem based on similar principles, and I am excited to see where they take me.

3. Tendonitis can be greatly alleviated by nutritional supplements: A friend with horrendous tendonitis of the left knee and excessive overall muscle tension was diagnosed as having a magnesium deficiency due to poor diet. After 2 weeks on mineral supplements, most of her muscle tension was gone and the tendonitis symptoms had been alleviated. She remained on the supplements and started increasing her activity level to stimulate healing with great results. :)

rbibbs
01-04-2004, 07:58 PM
Great observations Jason. Looking forward to more.

I haven't had a lot of swelling injuries, but keeping bromelain in mind if it happens. DO get knee tendonitis, from even driving more than a couple hours, so need to look into magnesium. And while static stretches probably do "something"... dynamic motion stretches do so much more (joints and motor neurology), time is spent more productively.

Rick

Ken H
01-12-2004, 12:45 PM
Jason:

I am 55, train for girevoy sport, and have "battled" meniscus and/or collateral ligament problem in my right knee for most of the past year.

Recently, this flared up big-time,after heavy Kettlebell training sessions.

In addition to Warrior Wellness/4 corner balance drills, I increased the PNF "stretches" from Pavel T's work and turned them more into isometric exercises, lengthening the contraction from 6-7 seconds to 30 sec to a minute. I also added dynamic isometrics to WW. I've been astonished at how fast my leg has recovered (less than 2 weeks).

I'll look into Bromelain. Thx for the post.

Ken, RKC

James Boelter
01-18-2004, 07:00 PM
Jason, thanks a lot for some very solid information. I had heard about both of your supplement recommendations before, but suspected the info was just being released by people who wanted to sell me bromelain and magnesium supplements. Grass roots feedback on forums such as this is the real convincer.

I don't completely agree on the worthlessness of static stretching, but a lot of that depends on what you consider included in the term. I cleared up a knee tendinitis problem of 3 years duration in something like 3 months of dedicated Bikram yoga practice...but that routine is at least as much about 'active' flexibility and one-legged balancing poses and a lot of strenous effort as it is 'static' stretching. But that IS different from a bunch of passive stretches.