CST Strategy for Knee Pain?

[rockky]

Hi
I am enjoying the novelty of WW and Intu-Flow movements.
It was suggested based on my goals to get Flowfit which I planned on doing this week...however I read a few threads describing knee aggravation with it.
(I have some knee pain from poor lifting years ago and osteoarthritis below the kneecaps). This is one of the reasons I was lead to CST.
Anyway would Flowfit not be advisable? If not any suggestions for another program?
Anyone resolve knee issues as a result of CST involvement?
Thanks. Any perspectives are appreciated.
Tim
Another unrelated question: I kind of see how the clubells are extentions of movements refined in WW,Intuflow and others... just wondering... why not extentions of sorts for the legs to do circular movements as with the arms/body?
In addition to regular WW style movement... I was improvising, lying on my back and doing single leg figure 8's from l-floor to r-floor to over my head and was thinking, man if your feet could be loaded/extended this would be some kind of circular challenge.

[Silo9]

Tim,

I hear you on the knee pain. I stopped doing FlowFit, and it was a bad idea. Improper squatting is what caused my problems. I got with a CST instructor(Joseph Schwartz), who set me on my way, and showed me what I was doing wrong. I am currently trying to resolve this issue, with IntuFlow, and weight training using all three major muscles of the quads, stretching, and doing squats at a 30 degrees using a P-Ball.

I will start FlowFit again, except only using a small ROM with the squats.

But, like all the products say: Consult your Doctor before.......

I also found Lvl 2 Intuflow knee program helps, but have not looked at 3 and 4.

Keep us posted,

Dave

[Joseph David]

Hi
I am enjoying the novelty of WW and Intu-Flow movements.
It was suggested based on my goals to get Flowfit which I planned on doing this week...however I read a few threads describing knee aggravation with it.
(I have some knee pain from poor lifting years ago and osteoarthritis below the kneecaps). This is one of the reasons I was lead to CST.
Anyway would Flowfit not be advisable? If not any suggestions for another program?
Anyone resolve knee issues as a result of CST involvement?
Thanks. Any perspectives are appreciated.
Tim
Another unrelated question: I kind of see how the clubells are extentions of movements refined in WW,Intuflow and others... just wondering... why not extentions of sorts for the legs to do circular movements as with the arms/body?
In addition to regular WW style movement... I was improvising, lying on my back and doing single leg figure 8's from l-floor to r-floor to over my head and was thinking, man if your feet could be loaded/extended this would be some kind of circular challenge.

Tim,

I found the same movements with the legs while lying on the floor to be very benificial. You can do the same with the arms. I will be presenting a series of articles to the forum in the next few months that will give a perspective of movement in relationship to gravity.

I have been exploring using a pole as a tool for incremental progression in the trinity squat. I tore my meniscus 20 years ago. I'm teaching my structure to retrack the knees. I noticed that I could do trinity squats unassisted. But, because of compensation and spiraling I was loading the joints unequally. Using a pole give my structure a reference so I can track evenly. I'm using the slow and smoothe protocal during the cognitive learning process.

Keep up the exploration.

[rockky]

Thank you!

[mray]

Hi Tim,
I have had many issues in the past with my knees. Although before I started working with RMAX materials there was already great improvements in the health of my knees from various exercises, I have seen improvements that I didn't think that I would ever see from using Intuflow, Bodyflow and flowfit. Some general guidelines that I can offer which are stated in the RMAX materials are incremental progression, proper technique and keeping the level of discomfort down. Look in the Rmax archives for information on Intuitive Training. This method allows you to monitor and be aware of the effects that your training program is having on you. If I am trying a new movement that brings about a certain amount of fear reactivity I move very slowly and breath while trying to be in the moment of the movement so that i can become aware of what is happening in my body. Consistent training with an emphasis on the Intuflow seems to work wonders for recovery and regeneration. I feel that I might rambling, If there is anything that you would like me to elaborate on please let me know. I am not a CST, I am just someone who has been trying to deepen my daily practice and who has experienced a fair share of injuries in the past.

Cheers,

Matt

[Silo9]

Tim,

Joseph also had a few more tips. Fold at the hips first, before the squat. Make sure your hips will fit between your feet. (proper distance between each foot). Both were things I was not doing.

But, those were problems with my structure and movement. You might have different issues, or needs, to help with the knees.

Dave