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FlowinFasst
08-25-2006, 10:52 AM
Coach(es),
I am very into my training. I have always been interested in in how a pro athelete like Coach Sonnon etc, deals with being sick/training schedules. For myself, I will always lay off when I feel it coming on, so my strength can be devoed to overcoming the cold. I have heard the "sweat it out" theory, but that has only led me to getting sicker. that was years ago when i tried it and I never got as sick as I did after I got over heated, dehydrated etc during when I had a cold.
Thoughts?
Coach Tran
08-25-2006, 11:05 AM
Coach(es),
I am very into my training. I have always been interested in in how a pro athelete like Coach Sonnon etc, deals with being sick/training schedules. For myself, I will always lay off when I feel it coming on, so my strength can be devoed to overcoming the cold. I have heard the "sweat it out" theory, but that has only led me to getting sicker. that was years ago when i tried it and I never got as sick as I did after I got over heated, dehydrated etc during when I had a cold.
Thoughts?
Be healthy first and the rest will take care of itself.
Scott Sonnon
08-25-2006, 11:22 AM
Barry,
Follow the steps. Do the food. Do the supplements (in which you're deficient). Do the movement. Do positive stress and no more. And you won't get sick anymore.
Adding training onto an immune system already burdened fighting off an assailant is by definition overtraining. Reframe looking at it as taking time off, but rather doing your actual training quota. In CST, we set as our goal fostering neuro-immuno-endocrine competence through the aid of the myofascial. So, when you're fighting off a bug, you may not be flexing the muscles, but you are in fact training. Your immune system will become stronger for it.
However, "sweating it out" fosters immuno-suppression. It's a grunt mentality, and short-lived.
I don't get sick anymore really. About once every year or two, I have taken on too much work, training demands and personal responsibilities simultaneously and thus over-burdened my immune system. (Oh, and wee ones come back from school, which has about the same effect as daily licking the handles of shopping carts. :D) Strain (too much stress) lets down the gates, and in rushes a bug. My body downshifts to life support systems only (puts me in bed) so that I knock off the nonsense... until it can recover and oust the bug.
I'm learning though. A major part is realizing that personal stress, work stress, and training stress go undifferentiated to the immune system. It's all just stress to it.
peterng25
08-25-2006, 11:31 AM
In CST, we set as our goal fostering neuro-immuno-endocrine competence through the aid of the myofascial.
My ears just went erect! Another pearl about the neuro-immuno-endocrine response, straight from the horse ;0) mouth.
Scott Sonnon
08-25-2006, 11:34 AM
It's been the goal of hatha yoga for centuries. I just used more syllables.
KD Jones
08-25-2006, 11:43 AM
Hmmm... in reviewing the ardha-matsyendra, hasta-pada-angusta, pavana-mukta asanas, and the benefits of maintaining dirgha pranayama during practice, it strikes me that you're syllable count is actually a little low, Coach.
Connie Brown
08-25-2006, 11:52 AM
In CST, we set as our goal fostering neuro-immuno-endocrine competence through the aid of the myofascial.
Also through nutrition we foster NEI competence. I don't get sick any more either, not having Coach's workload or little schoolkids.
It's getting notorious and a little embarrassing at work - it's one thing to always be there, on your game, and calm in a storm but, if there's too much sangfroid they wonder if you're on meds and taking a wee bit of a high dose. So I have to *act* more stressed than I am!
James Boelter
08-25-2006, 12:06 PM
Barry,
Adding training onto an immune system already burdened fighting off an assailant is by definition overtraining. Reframe looking at it as taking time off, but rather doing your actual training quota. In CST, we set as our goal fostering neuro-immuno-endocrine competence through the aid of the myofascial. So, when you're fighting off a bug, you may not be flexing the muscles, but you are in fact training. Your immune system will become stronger for it.
However, "sweating it out" fosters immuno-suppression. It's a grunt mentality, and short-lived.
I don't get sick anymore really.
I also find it really helps to move the conceptual frame of your training from "strength and conditioning" to "health and vitality".
Once I moved my focus from "look mean and dangerous/beat up other people" to "feel as good as possible all the time", I stopped getting sick - no more colds, flus or any of those "ill humours" that spread over your local village/day care/office/classroom. I'm not saying I'm "bulletproof" - I just have enough "oomph" in my immunological reserve to take care of the little stuff.
Remember, unless you are peaking for a competition in some sporting event that is very important to you...health first, THEN numbers, BF %age, etc. I do CST, yoga and chi kung every day because it makes me feel like a million bucks, and doing it even better makes me feel even better. That's plenty of motivation in and of itself to improve.
Joseph David
08-25-2006, 12:08 PM
Hmmm... in reviewing the ardha-matsyendra, hasta-pada-angusta, pavana-mukta asanas, and the benefits of maintaining dirgha pranayama during practice, it strikes me that you're syllable count is actually a little low, Coach.
Is in not more efficient to say more with less?
Coach Gostnell
08-25-2006, 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by KD Jones
Hmmm... in reviewing the ardha-matsyendra, hasta-pada-angusta, pavana-mukta asanas, and the benefits of maintaining dirgha pranayama during practice, it strikes me that you're syllable count is actually a little low, Coach.
Is in not more efficient to say more with less?
LOL! At BOTH youse guys
FlowinFasst
08-25-2006, 03:34 PM
Coach Sonnon,
I think I got my bug from the wee ones. What sort of supplements to you recommend? I'm a vegatarian, but recently I've heard the 21st century term "pesca-tarian," and I fall into that category. No red meat, no chicken, just fish and loads of the other goodies. When I'm in So. Florida I drink Cuban Coffe (Cafe as the call it), but otherwise I can take it or leave the coffe thing. My wife calls our diet "clean" and it feels that way. Perhaps, that will give you a bead on how I eat. I started to take the supplement "Airborne" & Zicam right when I started to feel like I was headed down and I do have muted symptoms. Sleep is key I realize, and I'm to bed by 10:30 latest and up at 5:50 am everyday. I would like to get to the place you guys were talking about; 1 cold per year or 2.
KD Jones
08-25-2006, 03:48 PM
Is in not more efficient to say more with less?
Hmmm.
"To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?"
or
"WHAT IS UP WITH ALL THIS?
Should I deal with this crap,
Or bag, and be done with it?"
Depends, I guess.
Coach Flanagan
08-25-2006, 03:59 PM
KD,
I like the latter:D
Scott Sonnon
08-25-2006, 04:49 PM
Coach Sonnon,
I think I got my bug from the wee ones. What sort of supplements to you recommend? I'm a vegatarian, but recently I've heard the 21st century term "pesca-tarian," and I fall into that category. No red meat, no chicken, just fish and loads of the other goodies. When I'm in So. Florida I drink Cuban Coffe (Cafe as the call it), but otherwise I can take it or leave the coffe thing. My wife calls our diet "clean" and it feels that way. Perhaps, that will give you a bead on how I eat. I started to take the supplement "Airborne" & Zicam right when I started to feel like I was headed down and I do have muted symptoms. Sleep is key I realize, and I'm to bed by 10:30 latest and up at 5:50 am everyday. I would like to get to the place you guys were talking about; 1 cold per year or 2.
I swear by Wellness formula: 3 tablets 3X/day and it kicks most approaching bugs within 1-2 days of first onset. Can be problematic if you're sensitive to larger doses of vitamin C and garlic.
http://www.wellnessformula.com/images/well.jpg
FlowinFasst
08-25-2006, 05:27 PM
Think Wild Oats would carry this?
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