hardcore Alt. Med

[Brett Jacques]

Has anyone experience with the "incurables" program of Richard Schulze? I think it may make interesting discussion.

[bob_stra]

Has anyone experience with the "incurables" program of Richard Schulze? I think it may make interesting discussion.

No, though your message title perked my ears up.

Can you tell us some more about it? There are (unfortunately) some pretty awful things done in the name of alt.med, as well as some fairly amazingly useful ones. Always keen to learn more.

[tgerstmar2]

Never had any personal experience with his stuff, though I've heard a lot of stories and have known people that used his various cleanses, especially the bowel cleanse. Personally I disagree with his diet recommendations and his hardcore condemnation of supplements. Still, assuming the reports are true, you can't argue that he was quite successful treating some really serious cases.
A guy named Sam Biser offers a 'home-study' type of course that draws extensively on the teachings of Schultze. I've been thinking about springing for it and picking it up...but then I just blew my cash on a bruiser. So it'll be a little while.

Thanks.

[DChampagne]

A good friend of my wife and I has trained with Dr. Schultze and has had us try quite a few of his different tinctures. I tried the intestinal formula of his, but it didn't agree with me at all-might be allergic to one of the herbs that's in there along with the activated charcoal and clay. Dave C.

[James Boelter]

I'd stay away from Sam Biser, though. Overly combative and self promoting materials that make Matt Furey and Greg Ellis look like Roshi Shun-ryu Suzuki. "Curing With Cayenne" is ten pages of somewhat useful information padded out with 100 pages of filler, full page pictures and general overblown chest thumping; it's one of the very few alternative health books that made me angry when I read it.

There's nothing wrong with being contentious, and with 'tweaking' the noses of mainstream thinking, but Biser is a blowhard who obscures
some potentially useful ideas with a circus huckster mentality that is guaranteed to keep those ideas on the flakey fringe.

JMO, of course, and no one appointed me the big 'alternative medicine' Sheriff of da house 8) .

[Brett Jacques]

Many who go against the norm have these types of personalities and I suspect it's to give the person and their "patients" more confidence in what they are doing.

Richard Schulze trained with John Christopher, an herbalist, nature cure practitioner. These guys practice what is referred to as Heroic Herbal medicine or purge, poop and puke. I studied with many old Naturopaths like these guys. It was their way or the highway and they didn't believe in complimentary medicine. Just an excuse to whimp out, they said.

Like many alternative approaches, the incurables is both patient and practitioner-time intensive. It is not an approach for the layman to attempt without an experienced practitioner and it does work. But it ain't for everybody.