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Monkey
01-22-2004, 01:59 AM
Hi All,
On the Fisticuffs tape Coach Sonnon talks about the use of a Reintergration Process to recovery from negative indicators. This is a concept that really clicks with me and I am starting to intergrate this into both my martial training and daily life (but hopefull in a less obvious way).
There is also a section on moving from a declarative statement (such as "*^%$ that hurt" ) to a process driven one and a specific example is given for grappling.
I viewed this as a little similar to the concept of a performance mantra, something trained and ingrained to fall back on in times of high stress actual combat to bring me back to the process. Does anyone have any suggestions?
ATB
Monkey
Scott Sonnon
01-22-2004, 07:20 AM
In which fighting sport do you compete, or do you mean for self-defense, military CQC, LEO hostile subject control, doorman escort, EP, correctional officer cell extractions, et cetera? Performance Mantras are venue specific.
Monkey
01-22-2004, 07:39 AM
Coach
For me it would either be Self Defense or Doorman escort. I have a training partner who is part time military (guess its equivelant of US National Gaurd).
ATB
Monkey
Scott Sonnon
01-22-2004, 07:43 AM
In what kind of encounters do you find (place) yourself?
Monkey
01-22-2004, 07:51 AM
Coach,
On the occassions I work on the door I tend to find myself in very few situations to be honest that resort to the physical, escorting out a drunk or two while traing not to let them vomit on me is pretty key, but doing this type of work less and less.
I occassionallyy go out and blow the suds off a few, but rarely to excess and rarely to those places where I feel in grave danger. I am a walker and a talker, I will get out and go rather than stand and fight but I what if I get confronted and have to
1. Decide to go physical.
2. Get focused on the pain during the confrontation.
What would the mantra be to bring me back to the fight?
For my training friend, cannot really comment but it would be CQC and unarmed, would this be materially different from self defense?
ATb
Monkey
Scott Sonnon
01-22-2004, 07:59 AM
Andy,
2. Get focused on the pain during the confrontation. I'm not sure what you mean by this. Can you expand?
What would the mantra be to bring me back to the fight? When/how you find (take) yourself out of the fight?
For my training friend, cannot really comment but it would be CQC and unarmed, would this be materially different from self defense? Bring your friend on the forum so he can speak for himself. Performance Mantras are already within you, something you already employ. Emotional and mental noise gets in the way of hearing the signal. A coach needs to ask the right questions to bring it out and tune you in to your own voice.
Monkey
01-22-2004, 08:12 AM
Coach
Will try to expand.
On the FlowFighting tape you talk about focusing on the Results/ Outcome rather than the process or procedure. I recall you give an example of thinking "ow that hurts" and therefore removing your indistractedness. I recall another article (in CST I think) where you talked about the performance mantra for a specific exercise (a Clubell snatch?).
In order to keep me in the upward spiral from what I understand I am to focus on the process and not on declarative statements (ow that hurts), so if I feel pain and I will think of the pain (subject to habituation training etc).
One thing that worries me is getting into a defensive/cowering mindset and not having the tools to get back into the fightingframe of mind.
I have heard this expressed as the offensive mindset in some arts/styles but I percieve it is something different here where you are looking at the performance.
So I imagine the mantra might be something like
"Relax and move"
As opposed to something like
"Punch him in the head" which is focused on an outcome i.e. hitting him in the head. Would a mantra with the object of surviving/ inflicting massive trauma to your opponent would still be "outcome" driven ?
Taking myself out of the fight would have to be a lapse of the indistractibility and is thereofre something I can ultimately control but if sometihng unexpected happens (his two buddies come and join in/ he draws a knife/ I take a severe hit) then I need to be able to recvoer quickly and a mantra together with the D.E.M strategy would assist.
Thanks for your time so far.
Monkey
Scott Sonnon
01-22-2004, 08:23 AM
In order to keep me in the upward spiral from what I understand I am to focus on the process and not on declarative statements (ow that hurts), so if I feel pain and I will think of the pain (subject to habituation training etc). Don't make this complicated. If you're on the upward spiral, don't get in your own way. Just continue to let it happen. Most people tinker with good performance, trying to "fix what ain't broke."
One thing that worries me is getting into a defensive/cowering mindset and not having the tools to get back into the fightingframe of mind. Why does it worry you? Has it happened? When/how? Everything you've told me so far seems like you're on top of situations.
I have heard this expressed as the offensive mindset in some arts/styles but I percieve it is something different here where you are looking at the performance. Yes, an offensive mindset is much different than a performance orientation.
So I imagine the mantra might be something like
"Relax and move"
As opposed to something like
"Punch him in the head" which is focused on an outcome i.e. hitting him in the head. Would a mantra with the object of surviving/ inflicting massive trauma to your opponent would still be "outcome" driven ? I've highlighted your intuition's satellite thrown out there for you to pay attention. This is your personalized mantra.
Taking myself out of the fight would have to be a lapse of the indistractibility and is thereofre something I can ultimately control but if sometihng unexpected happens (his two buddies come and join in/ he draws a knife/ I take a severe hit) then I need to be able to recvoer quickly and a mantra together with the D.E.M strategy would assist. Notice the highlight above. Remember that surprise, shock, unexpected events and error do not "take you out of the fight" but rather your fixation upon these past events does not occur in *real* time. You need to practice in every moment of daily life in order to remain indistractible in a crisis. You cannot hope to compartmentalize indistractibility. When you perceive an error, become surprised, face unexpected events, experience shock, at those moments throughout your daily life, employ your personalized performance mantra - Relax and Move!.
Monkey
01-22-2004, 08:35 AM
Coach Sonnon
Thanks. One of your greatest abilities is to make people be able to see their own gifts/insights when it is blind to them.
In heavy sparring I have on occassion gone on to the defensive, this is something I feel I need to address through the progressive intensity route.
Confidence in ones abilites in a self defense sscenario needs to be absolute but is so difficult to test.
Thanks for your help.
Monkey
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