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rockky
11-29-2006, 04:59 PM
Rmax is such a great new way of thinking about and performing movement.
Question about the advisability of performing Flowfit a little differently in terms of preserving its integrety.
An accident years ago injured my very lower back. Its gone from incapacitation to healthy..but pain rears its ugly head every now and then...like for the last 6weeks!
Squatting deep can cause issue..(not always though)
Walking lunges were recommended strongly by a health practitioner (a sports guy too!)...because the reverse extended leg helps keep my pelvis from tucking forward (which it does)...And it works (i've rarely ever done them)
SO.. the question..I love flowfit and want to master it..
is there a way to do it using walking lunges.
Having a hard time envisioning how that might flow..with the exercises.
Any thoughts ...or description of how it could work'd be appreciated.
Thanks
tim
Coach Al-mulla
11-29-2006, 06:32 PM
Tim,
It could be done, but you might want to get intouch with an instructor or coach to help you with this issue. given your back problem, you want to make sure its done smoothly with proper structure, movement and breathing. Text descriptions might create some problems as the amount of details is limited.
Connie Brown
11-29-2006, 06:39 PM
Rmax is such a great new way of thinking about and performing movement.
Question about the advisability of performing Flowfit a little differently in terms of preserving its integrety.
An accident years ago injured my very lower back. Its gone from incapacitation to healthy..but pain rears its ugly head every now and then...like for the last 6weeks!
Squatting deep can cause issue..(not always though)
Walking lunges were recommended strongly by a health practitioner (a sports guy too!)...because the reverse extended leg helps keep my pelvis from tucking forward (which it does)...And it works (i've rarely ever done them)
SO.. the question..I love flowfit and want to master it..
is there a way to do it using walking lunges.
Having a hard time envisioning how that might flow..with the exercises.
Any thoughts ...or description of how it could work'd be appreciated.
Thanks
tim
Hm, good question.
In some ways, Flow-Fit is about adding attributes (strength, endurance, conditioning). Which you wouldn't want to add attributes to a back that is not a clean slate = hinky.
Flow-Fit is also a Prasara thing which means it removes the brakes from your high performance. by removing stiffness etc. In that sense it would be good for removing the brakes from what's holding you back in your back, ha ha.
You mentioned the pelvic "bowl". In CST our goal is to be able to tip that bowl in all directions - forward, back, sides, neutral. Not to avoid one of those directions because of injury. If there's injury we want recovery.
What is the state of your joint mobility in lumbar, back, hips, and chest?
rockky
11-30-2006, 06:31 PM
thanks for the replies.
Connie..I think my mobility (as defined by intuflow)is fairly good...My flexibility (hams,quads,ankle extention is not....I.e.getting heals down in downward dog is a challenge..but better!).
Anyway, did full depth walking lunges under the eye of my friend and was pleased with bottom hip/pelvis and upright torso position and thought of restarting flowfit using them... at least for the time being.
KD Jones
11-30-2006, 07:18 PM
I'm going to throw this out here, ONLY because it made a difference for me.
Please do NOT take any information that comes from me over that of the CST coaches. I don't know anything about your particular case, and if I did, I wouldn't have any business using it. I'm neither specifically nor generally trained, nor educated.
That said... I'm currently coming out the other side of a L5-S1 protruding disk, that caused pain in certain positions, and in certain uses. It wasn't a completely debilitating pain, there were time when it wasn't present, however, it was ALWAYS present during the performance of a number of movements that are very important to me, regarding MA, CST, and life in general.
For the earliest and greater part of my rehab, I acted contary to Coach Brown's statment regarding the intent of CST, in which "... our goal is to be able to tip [the pelvic bowl] in all directions - forward, back, sides, neutral. Not to avoid one of those directions because of injury. If there's injury we want recovery."
I avoided anything resembling a back bend like the plague. Since forward bending is contraindicated in my condition, that didn't leave a lot.
While studying yoga-related materials pursuant to rehab and Prasara work, I came across a very different approach, which basically came down to backbending a LOT.
After a lot of reading, I found that it made sense to me, and I've tried it (along with the twisting poses prescribed as counter poses/compliments to backbending) and it seems to have made all the difference.
That was me. It may even be a fluke. But it seems to be affecting me beneficially, exactly as the yoga teachers and practitioners from whom the suggestions came would have predicted, based on their writings.
But remember, I have no idea what's going on with your back, and if I did, it wouldn't matter. Don't try any backbending tonight, tomorrow, or maybe ever. Ask the coaches here, sift through PTs until you find someone you truly and completely trust to check these things with, and ask questions until you're blue in the face and your ears hurt.
I now dismount the soapbox, cautiously.
Mostly though, blessings to you in this healing. I hope to see you on the other side...
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