View Full Version : Take down defense vidoes?
AAAhmed46
10-12-2007, 06:50 PM
Id love if i could get videos devoted solely on reversals and sprawls, any way to keep standing.
I know a big part of take down defense is knowing how to take someone down but........well.
yeah.
AdamS.
10-12-2007, 07:53 PM
Adam,
Get "Immovable Object, Unstoppable Force." Knowing the principals behind taking someone down can help you avoid being taken down yourself. Also check out FlowFit II. If you do end up on the mat, the next thing to do it get back up. FlowFit II covers that.
PS Also, remember to sign your real name to all your posts. That helps avoid confusion. :)
I'm not aware of anything useful that only covers sprawls. Especially reversals - a reversal is countering a takedown with a takedown. You have to know takedowns for that. In short, what you were asking for doesn't exist and you do have to go for something that teaches the takedowns. You also need to practice them.
Coach Hurst
10-13-2007, 06:09 AM
I'm not aware of anything useful that only covers sprawls. Especially reversals - a reversal is countering a takedown with a takedown. You have to know takedowns for that. In short, what you were asking for doesn't exist and you do have to go for something that teaches the takedowns. You also need to practice them.
It exists. I cover this very topic on the supplemental DVD of Coach Sonnon's Leg Lock DVD. :)
Knowing the principals behind taking someone down can help you avoid being taken down yourself.
Exactly.
Robert V
10-13-2007, 08:54 AM
The best place to learn wrestling defense/offense is from wrestlers. http://www.championshipproductions.com has been one of my major resources for years. John Smith has an excellent takedown defense product and Greg Strobel has an excellent escapes and reversals product.
Rich Salamone's(www.wrestlingplan.com)"Wrestling Plan for the Jiu jitsu" man is also an excellent resource. Especially if you like Coach Sonnon's very detailed and intelligent style of instruction. Like IOUF, he's not just about the end result and the "how" so much, but he elaborates on the "why it works".
Yet, those tactics would be useless without the biomechanical tools to execute them. That's where FlowFit II and the new Grappler's Toolbox comes in. This is especially important if you are learning as an adult without a wrestling background. Movement comes first...and then technique.
It exists. I cover this very topic on the supplemental DVD of Coach Sonnon's Leg Lock DVD. :)
Why would you make a takedown defense DVD and not include a takedown DVD?
AdamS.
10-13-2007, 05:03 PM
Why would you make a takedown defense DVD and not include a takedown DVD?
He didn't. You'll have to watch the DVD. He covered a lot in a short amount of time.
Then as I said, what Ahmed is asking for doesn't exist.
AdamS.
10-13-2007, 05:08 PM
It's a big world. I'm sure it does somewhere. But he can get the information from the sources we've mentioned.
It's a big world. I'm sure it does somewhere. But he can get the information from the sources we've mentioned.
I suppose you could, but that would be like trying to learn how to wash dishes when you've never cooked with them and made them dirty. Any useful instructional on takedown defense will have a complementary section (or an earlier instructional) on takedowns.
AAAhmed46
01-19-2008, 12:00 PM
Sorry i didn't get back to this sooner.
Doesn't look like there is much stuff, though it is outhere, i found one that is part of a whole wrestling package.
Looks like i should work with some wrestlers. I got a freind who's a wrestler.
Thanks for the responses.
Adam.
lorenzodamarith
05-18-2010, 04:28 PM
hello,
whew! thread necromancy is alive and kickin' this last couple days, neh?
anyway, after viewing both iouf and a video of coach hurst manhandling a judo black belt (joke, it was a private lesson), asked coach hurst about this very subject.
coach hurst said that during that session, the black belt in question experienced zero success with takedown attempts simply because coach hurst "concentrated on maintaining structure" and that such structure is studied at length in iouf.
it seems that as long as the rules of structure are adhered to, then wrestling style takedowns should be equally unsuccessful.
it seems that the differing views on takedowns and defense seem to be "chicken and egg" argument. that is, the two subjects are not mutually exclusive and seem more or less dependent upon the training objective rather than a "this before that" sequence.
if one learns and trains takedowns, then one is learning and training to defend them (though the focus might be one sided). if one learns and trains defenses, then one is learning and training takedowns (again, the focus might be one sided).
either way, the takedown attack-defend-counter-recounter continuum is a fascinating subject.
hmmmm. getting a sudden urge to do some iouf without a gi on. just for fun, might renovate an elbow-off-sweep-to a cutback-double! hahahahahahaha!
thanks
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