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fitnutrn
03-02-2004, 05:23 PM
Has anyone here worked with war clubs made by detroitbarbell.com? If anyone has what are the differences between war clubs and clubbells?
Rick
circular
03-02-2004, 06:44 PM
Read Coach Sonnon's article 10 reasons for the Superior Training Effect of the Clubbell (http://www.circularstrengthmag.com/17/sonnon3.html) to learn the dangers of shot-loaded equipment with Circular Strength Training. One needs a fixed center of mass to prevent sudden deviations in movement which may lead to injury.
James Boelter
03-02-2004, 08:40 PM
The design is much more suitable for sheer 'strength' moves (ie slwo presses) than multiple repetitions of high-torque ballistic moves. Tempting (especially the 'penny loading' version), but I will have to pass.
If I was rich and had money to throw around for an Iron Game collection/museum, I would definitely get one for the collection.- they look pretty cool.
Lumpy Gravy
03-03-2004, 04:28 AM
Interesting stuff. Thanks for the link. I'm not sure about a loaded club since if whatever you're loading it with slides around, that could be trouble. I've always wondered about those shot loaded KB's though. Atomic Athletic has some too. Maybe I'll get one and test it out after my 88 lbs'er becomes a toy.
http://www.atomicathletic.com/shop/tek9.asp?pg=products
JasonE
03-04-2004, 08:20 PM
Cripes, some pretty crazy equipment for sale, and some wicked action shots in their photo gallery. These guys are nuts about finding strange, heavy things to hoist.
When I clicked the link to learn more about Matt Furey's connection to the War Clubs, I had to groan... and the more I read, the louder the groans. I respect the things he has achieved, but... his promo stuff always makes me squirm. Interestingly, his promo literature said very very little about the War Clubs, but got a lot of mileage out of Gama's name. I still have no idea what he proposes to do with those clubs.
Here's all he says about them in the promo literature: :roll:
Now, there are some places where I will deviate from what Gama did - but this is important to do for a couple reasons. First of all, I don't think you'll want to wear a large stone ring around your neck when you do your squats and pushups - nor will you be able to find one in any stores. Second, I don't think you'll have access to the heavy Indian clubs Gama used to swing around. Nor do you need them.
Not to worry.
I have a few sets of Indian clubs myself - and I have used them enough to know their value. Don't get me wrong - they are good - but when tested alongside other methods of training to see which was the best - they didn't hold up.
What I have to teach you is superior to the Indian clubs for increasing functional strength and overall fitness. Although Indian clubs have a certain mystique about them - and although they are "traditional," there is a better way to cut to the chase and get the results you want. Some tradition is great - but only if it still works better than everything else. Right? And so, I'm of the opinion that if Gama were around today, he'd agree with the slight deviations and adjustments I've made.
It will be interesting to see who else jumps onto the club-swinging bandwagon next, and with what modifications...
Coach Jones
03-11-2004, 10:10 AM
When I clicked the link to learn more about Matt Furey's connection to the War Clubbells®, I had to groan... and the more I read, the louder the groans. I respect the things he has achieved, but... his promo stuff always makes me squirm
Amen!!
Here's a link to the original Farmer Burns course as released in 1912. In it, there's a small section on Indian Clubs. While it's not a "rave review" or anything, it's interesting that Matt Furey decided to omit this section in HIS Farmer Burns manual when everything else is exactly the same. Hmmmmm.
http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competition/Burns/lessons/lesson05.htm
-BrandonJones, CST
JasonE
03-11-2004, 12:12 PM
Cool link! I'm going to enjoy reading all this...
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