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SiDaiJoey
03-02-2004, 06:23 PM
On the BF tape, Coach talks about the time he met Pavel, and emphasized the difference between his approach (relax and melt around hits) to Pavel's (armor yourself with dense wiry muscle and hard abs). He said both have a place and a use. This started me thinking:

Pavel always emphasizes development of great tension for strength. However, both him and Coach state that excess residual tension (from stress, fear-reactivity, bad posture, overtraining, not stretching, etc) are counterproductive.

I have extreme chronic tension in my upper back, shoulders and neck. My chiropractor has been helping me. However, this past weekend I came up with an approach that seems to help unlock things a bit more and helps this process along. The beauty is that it can be done anywhere.

Ever think about the expression "anal"? It means someone uptight and stressed. I beleive it originally derives from Freudian psychology, but there's a reason why we have that association. Well. I started thinking about this. Coupling Pavel's always mentioning clenching your anus and forearms for maximum tension, bracing and strength, along with the idea of increasing looseness and flowing movement (a la BF, Super Joints, Relax into Stretch, etc), I came up with this: Do the opposite. To relax, UNclench the anus. Consciously.

Don't just do deep breathing to relax, but actually unclench your anus, forearms, and other tense areas (on me notably the hamstrings and other areas), especially while breathing from the diaphragm, and even while walking. It has helped release knots and tense areas in my body. Over the weekend I had slept funny on Friday night, and had missed my adjustment appointment on Friday morning, so I was bit tight. I practiced this idea throughout the day and things started to gradually pop and release more.

On Sunday I happened to meet a fellow KB enthusiast, and was showing him some moves with his 1.5 pood (I actually don't own one that heavy myself but have played with one before) with my left arm, which is my stronger side. The next day I was a bit charley horsed and had knots all over the place. I went to my adjustment which helped somewhat, but this morning I woke up in knots again. After trying this idea of unclenching your anus thoughout the day, with a short BME session at night using the first few exercises from tape #1, things gradually loosened up from being painful to mildly tight.

Here's some ideas for practice:

As you walk, unclench your anus (just sort of let your groin and anus relax and "fall".) I feel a loosening in hamstrings as well. With practice, if you do a similar technique with your grip and your shoulders, you will find that your tension begins to reduce over the day if you are wound up. You can do this while walking, and if you couple this with some deep breathing (again while walking or sitting) it seems to work even better.

I plan to develop this method and practice it so that it helps with all my other physical endeavors. I try to use it as an immediate response to stress - rather than tighten up, loosen up. I think this will help with anything from combative stress (if you have time to do it while you're preparing) to releasing office stress about that meeting your dreading, or that distasteful trip to the in-laws. ;)

James Boelter
03-02-2004, 08:34 PM
Also see a little known classic, "The Secret of the Ring Muscles", which gives a (semi) Westernized 'somatic/bioenergetic' basis for many of the most well known chi kung exercises in Seated Eight Brocades/Microcosmic Orbit meditation. By 'ring muscles' the authoress means, of course, the sphincter muscles, but all of them - eyes, mouth, ears, anus and urethral.
Read the book and you'll swear that she is channeling Mantak Chia.

Very observant and insightful post, JSD!

Charlie
03-03-2004, 02:53 AM
hey, mate there is a book i think could give you some related possibilties to explore. get it from Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/yvcpt "How to Good-bye Depression : If You Constrict Anus 100 Times Everyday. Malarkey? or Effective Way?" by Hiroyuki Nishigaki.

a description from his homepage http://tinyurl.com/2nuay

"Constricting anus 100 times is effectivefor sex hormone, anti-aging, good-bye depression, fine life, beauty treatment,intuition, hair loss, conjugal affection. On air at 61 radio talk shows. Such an exercise looks as if you had your dirty weak used car (your body, heart) overhauled at the garage. The overhauled and powered-up glistened car can run smoothly on any bad road. Such an exercise is fuuny, but you can begin to live without complaints and don't hold a grudge under any circumstance.
How about you now? Are you exhausting dirty black gas from your buttocks or knocking like a dirty weak used car now? You can start seeing results only within a few days or a few weeks or a few months if you begin to do such an exercise everyday. Hmm,hmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,. No, better try it,,,,,,.

.... In addition, he also can have burned a strong beautiful fire within his abdomen. It can burn out the dirty stickiness of his body, release his immaterial fiber or third attention which has been confined to his stickiness. Then, he can shoot out his immaterial fiber or third attention to an object, concentrate on it and attain happy lucky feeling through the success of concentration. "

:) heh, seriously though, most people try to ignore the bum and its associated mysteries -- a cultural hangup i supppose -- but i think you've had a good insight, very interesting!

James Boelter
03-03-2004, 11:44 AM
There's always a problem when you take what is essentially an exercise in Taoist alchemy and try to promote it in a second language that you are not really proficient in. Especially when it's about the bum. Especially when our own cultural taboos refuse to even consider the sphincters as anything other than exit portals for something nasty and unspeakable.

Most of the books published in the Orient that make their way over here have the same problem - cultural barriers and language difficulties that make it hard for Americans to percieve the value of the contents. Of course, after having seen examples anime tentacle-rape porn :oops: , I'm willing to admit that the Japanese have their OWN problems and are hardly infallible purveyors of all things holy and wholesome. And for heaven's sakes, couldn't he have gotten a native English speaker to copy edit the title and the cover before it went to America???

What he's promoting is one of the primary 'traditional' Chinese health methods for organ health and building 'chi' in the tan tien. It works, it's cool, but it's a 'yoga of contemplation' and is meant to be practiced as a sacred ritual and with mindful attention.

Poor guy; I'm sure he means well. Similar to Alex Chiu, whose website is laughable for many reasons, but who actually has a product that has helped me quite a bit with stress and rejuvenation in a demanding, sleep deprived schedule (his finger magnets, modestly labeled as 'Immortality Devices').

JasonE
03-03-2004, 12:02 PM
Mantak Chia?

I believe I have his book on Iron-Shirt Chi Gung. Haven't spent a lot of time with it, as my Tai Chi days are done for now, and I've been focusing more on the "external" training methods up to now.

Would you recommend that I dust off Chia's book and pay attention or leave it sitting on the shelf with Jwang Wing-Ming, T.T. Liang, and the rest?

*sigh* I have thousands of years of wisdom on my bookshelves, but only another 50 or 60 years left to live.

James Boelter
03-03-2004, 07:10 PM
Well, since you asked (I wouldn't tax your patience otherwise), I would leave the Chia book on the shelf and break out the TT Liang book instead. Or grab yourself a copy of one of Stuart Alve Olsons's excellent books: "Cultivating The Chi", "8 Brocades Seated Chi Kung" or "Qigong Teachings of a Taoist Immortal". The last one is essentially a repackaging and refinement of the previous 2, and contains expanded and filled in versions of the extremely useful info I learned from Olson in a live seminar. It's worth its weight in gold...no lie. In once sense it's kind of a 'spoiler' because it takes all the mystery and obfuscation out of chi kung practice - you'll know what you are aiming for and how to get there and won't have any excuse to fail except lack of interest and patience. (Which is fine. Not that there is anything WRONG with that :wink: ).

If you don't like it, please feel free to remonstrate me all over creation as a 'zoosexual lie man" (sorry, I've been reading posts on IronGarm again, :oops: ), but I am sure you will.

somlor
03-03-2004, 07:42 PM
I would be careful with Chi's Iron Shirt Chi Kung practices unless you really know what you are doing. I've heard horror stories of doing the practices aggressively and without proper foundations, ie: microcosmic orbit, especially open front channel and six healing sounds. Refer to: http://www.healingdao.com/cgi-bin/tpost.pl?smessage=6122 for one such story.

Keith Franzen has an excellent website on approaching the Healing Tao system originated by Mantak Chi here: http://www.alchemicaltaoism.com/ and there are quite a bit of useful notes on Iron Shirt practice.

SiDaiJoey
03-04-2004, 02:46 AM
Even though I've heard of them, I've actually never tried any of these Chi Kung exercises; I just came up with this idea on my own, based on the reasoning in the original post. I've simply found it to be a simple way to release tension -- if I had to say it was similar to anything I had heard of before, it would be "muscle control" (like the old-time strongmen.)

In all seriousness, this is how I came up with this anal relaxation thing, and unless theres a real reason why I shouldn't do it, it's been great so far. I thought the Chi Kung posts were interesting, but that wasn't the actual line of thought I had been following.

I am going post a new post in another area of the forum as my further thoughts on the topic of energy don't belong in this area.


Joey Glaser

Garth Sch
03-10-2004, 02:55 PM
Mantak Chia chi-gung involves tying weights to your tesicles.

I hardly consider this as a good way to relax :!: :D

Burn with abdominal Fire,
Garth

PS I must get a copy of the Olsen book, sounds like genius. Thx

somlor
03-10-2004, 07:42 PM
Mantak Chia chi-gung involves tying weights to your tesicles.

I hardly consider this as a good way to relax :!: :D

Testicle weight lifting is only one peripheral practice in Mantak Chi's work and it's highly discouraged nowadays as it's dangerous and counterproductive.

JasonE
03-10-2004, 07:54 PM
Mantak Chia chi-gung involves tying weights to your tesicles.

I've seen video footage of Chinese monks practicing this, just so they can take a kick to the groin.

The silly thing is, it's easy to learn how to take a groin kick. You pretty much just have to stand a certain way, and you can take fabulously powerful kicks to the groin, no problem, just so long as it's a straight-up-the-middle instep or shin kick.

It's a stupid parlour trick, as it has almost no practical application in a fight, but it amuses the rubes. :lol:

I can teach almost anyone how to do it in about 10 minutes, since it's purely a matter of biomechanical positioning. Heck, one of my buddies and I figured it out on our own "just for kicks" back in college. I'm sure that some of you big-brained guys have too... or I am the only one here that was dumb enough to spend his spare time working on such a thing? :roll:

SiDaiJoey
03-11-2004, 07:54 PM
tying weights to ur family jewels? Dude....I mean....dude! Even for combat utility....I can't even fathom that...lol.


Joey