Fruit

[pink.pixie]

Hi,
what about carbs in fruit? They say a fruit can contain up to one tea spoon sugar.
I like fruit but I get some warnigns about the sugar it contains. I.e. for lever detox they recommend to get off fruit and sugary veggies (i.e. carrots, peas). :-(

Life would be boring without fruits, if you ask me, so where's the edge in this?
I eat now 1-5 fruits day (more likely just three); not a huge amount but that includes all kinds of fruit, even banana (good for kalium, no?)

thanks for your reply
pixie

[Luke Chohany]

Hey Pixie (that's an interesting name!),

I eat a mostly raw food diet that includes animal and plant foods and for the past few months I included a lot of fruit, between a few pieces to about 12 pieces max depending on my exercise load. The timing of my fruit intake was critical to minimize it's effects on my blood sugar, and even with that I noticed some negative effect from such amounts--bad skin, bad energy, spaciness. I wouldn't stop eating it, however, in fear that I would "bonk" or "hit the wall" during an important competition or workout. Even though I intuitively knew my body didn't like the amount of fruits I was consuming, I continued to eat it out of fear of loss of performance! After the competition season ended, about a month ago, I immediately cut out all fruit from my diet. Surprisingly my performance didn't suffer at all and I actually feel much better. I do plan on adding it back in small amounts eventually.

I don't personally think that fruit is bad, but I strongly believe it should be eaten in moderate to low amounts. Actually vegetables have everything you would ever get in fruits plus more, but I understand where you are coming from when you say life would be boring without them.

A final note: Just because it is natural doesn't mean it can't do your body harm. You can certainly benefit from it, especially if you choose lower sugar and higher nutrient varieties like berries.

Warm regards,
~Luke Chohany





Hi,
what about carbs in fruit? They say a fruit can contain up to one tea spoon sugar.
I like fruit but I get some warnigns about the sugar it contains. I.e. for lever detox they recommend to get off fruit and sugary veggies (i.e. carrots, peas). :-(

Life would be boring without fruits, if you ask me, so where's the edge in this?
I eat now 1-5 fruits day (more likely just three); not a huge amount but that includes all kinds of fruit, even banana (good for kalium, no?)

thanks for your reply
pixie

[Coach Tran]

I am not a Ph.D or MD in nutritional science. So with that in mind, please be skeptical about what you read here. I am just offering my own understanding, experience, and research. My non-professional opinion is fruit is not bad unless you have s specific metabolic disorder that has been personal observed or addressed by a medical professional. Do you know your metabolic type? According to those lab white coat experts who study sugar in foods, the carbs (sugars) in fruits has a lower GI because of its fiber content. Fiber slow down the sugar in your body's chemistry which mean it doesn't spike your insulin level or make it insenitive. However refined sugar is bad for you, devoid of any nutritional value, and many arguments have been made that the white stuff is no good for our health. All in all, not all sugar or carb is the same when it comes to our biology. Should you leave it or add fruit to your diet? I do not know for certain, however our current scientific knowledge has taught us that we ate fruit and adapted to it quite well for our survival in the past. This is why we have evolved to enjoy sweet foods. This may have benefited us when the only sweet stuff was seasonal fruits 10, 000 years ago, but now the environment has changed dramatically. Junk food is now made with refined sugars and our biology hasn't changed much since 10,000 years ago. In this case, our biology is working against us in our modern cultural evolution. My dietary advice is to make sure you have a healthy diet based on a rationally sound facts and be skeptical when there isn't much conclusive evidence. Behind the various food facts, political food debates, philosophical differences, ultimately it is you who is the judge what you do with your own life.

[Luke Chohany]

Great post Coach Tran!

You mention a very important point, that we all have a unique metabolic type. Instead of focusing on the newest fad diet people would do best trying to observe how their bodies react to all those food's the health "experts" are telling them to eat. Of course a mostly unprocessed and natural diet is a good place for anyone to start.

I remember when I first tried a high-fruit raw vegan diet...I felt really good...for about a day:) then...:confused:

~Luke

[Coach Tran]

Luke,

Thank you for enjoying the post. I tried to write something that matter when it counts. :) Like you I tried raw food diet and was a raw foodist for a year and it did not work for me. Does it mean raw food does not work for others? (I am an agnostic here.) I have tried many dietary philosophies and tested it on myself. We all should test, observe, and see where the evidence leads us.

Yours in Life,

[pink.pixie]

Hi,
I admit that my ignorance about metabolic types is total.
We might also have different insulin sensitivity. I agree that different individuals might react differently to different foods.

Did anybody here experiment with i.e. the blood type diet?

Since I posted I heard in connection to liver cleanse regimen that a single fruit can contain equivalent to one tsp sugar.

Then another person (on a female body building forum) wrote that fruit is relatively low in fructose and the amount total sugar is low. Plus fructose is not easily converted into glucose and she also said not to worry about content of sugar, considering fruit contains both fiber (slows GI, right) and vitamins.

Let's say that we discuss this within a context of an healthy eating plan.

Hmmm, OK, all is relative.

This I found today:
http://www.thefruitpages.com/contents.shtml

From a discussion I read on a diabetic forum today it sounded like the participants there were very aware about the fact that each person would tolerate different fruits and in different amounts.
It also seems that eating fruit with other food (protein) would have an effect on their blood sugar....

So even a non diabetic can learn from that but I know that if I eat a cottage cheese together with an apple it's very hard for me to digest while other people would not have problems...

OK...I got the message, thanks.


pixie

[Coach Tran]

Pixie,

The "Blood type diet" is really a fad diet in my opinion. There is no conclusive evidence in my awareness that I have found it to be the silver bullet. However finding out your blood type is part of knowing your own metabolic type. I wholeheartly encourage you to study and discover your metabolic type. Knowing your specific metabolic type is just a start and there are more you can explore if you decide to go down that rabbit hole. :) You will also have to also do your homework in understanding how yout food and exercise works for you? With this being written, what are your goals using CST in helping you to achieve your goals? We are here to help people use CST.

Yours in CST,

[pink.pixie]

Hi, yes I will investigate the metabolic types further, thanks.

My goals with CST?
I am totally new to this work and my first goal is to learn intu-flow (as a rehab project-frozen shoulder). I started a log also. I have a feeling this approach will grow on me.

pixie

[Coach Gostnell]

Just another thought about fruit...in most areas, it's seasonal and was only available for a short time in the year - different varieties coming on as others were finishing. Before supermarkets, refrigeration, and mass food preservation and transport, people (and plant-eating mammals in general)would take advantage when something was ripe and then not have it again until the next year.

[Coach Gostnell]

double post

[Coach Tran]

"This is why we have evolved to enjoy sweet foods. This may have benefited us when the only sweet stuff was seasonal fruits."
:)

[Coach Gostnell]

:)


Yeah, what you said, Brother Bao! :D

[pink.pixie]

hi jeanne, good point, indeed.
pixie

[Christopher]

I've had great success with Genotype diet which is a more evolved,detailed approach from the blood type diet and metabolic typing.
Here is a load of research on blood groups
http://www.dadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl?action=printable-index

[pink.pixie]

Hi Christopher, thanks.
I will investigate.

Since I asked my question I had a few days with more fruit (less other stuff) but it is not optimal, I felt. Sugar is sugar no matter what.

According to some test on the net (with reservations) I'd be a mixed type in the typing eating diet. I am not sure who could perform such glucose tests here if I am not ill to find out for sure.

pixie

PS I have a hard time to find the topics anew; the whole thread disappears when there are no new posts.