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04-14-2004, 06:40 PM
Reading the thread about Andrei and the UFC made me wonder about the success that your students and other followers of this forum have enjoyed from the use of the IOUF tapes. Recently my workouts became what I considered too broad, so I focused on IOUF. While listening to these tapes you mentioned leg fencing, so I also purchased that series.
I found the concept of becoming one with your opponent to create more options to use the triangle point very enlightening.
IOUF and Leg Fencing have enough information and things to practice to keep me busy for a long time. I HIGHLY recommend these two tape sets to ALL serious martial art students. Some time has now passed since these tapes were published and utilized, so I am interested in hearing about how ROSS students have employed the principles taught. Has there been any significant tournament victories for ROSS students from the use of IOUF and Leg Fencing concepts?
04-14-2004, 11:36 PM
A couple of years ago, I wanted to try my hand at Judo to enhance my "clinch" game. I signed up for a college course at the local community college. But before I began that class, I ordered IOUF. I studied the material pugnaciously. I then went to a "big time" fight club that had former state judo champs, Sambo world champs and pro NHB and San Shou fighters.
The first guy I ever did Judo with was 25+year black belt. I had done "zero" randori with the Judogi. I'd only studied the IOUF tapes. Well, the guy could not throw me. He seemed perplexed by the concepts I had learned from IOUF. I went on to spend a whole spring working out with these very experience players. The only one I couldn't throw was the Sambo world champ.(Remind you, I was a white belt who had zero judo experience. I'd only studied IOUF, but not practiced any drilling)
When I began at the college, I immediately was able to throw everyone in the class. And after two years, I've yet to be thrown in that dojo.
The community college judo team I was on had a scrimmage with the university judo team. I played for the first time ever and threw 3 out of the 4 guys I played and pinned the other who was a brown belt. I was still only a white belt "with only my IOUF concepts".
Later I enter my first major Shiai. I was shy about using my IOUF concepts and just tried to play traditional judo. I entered the blackbelt Masters division and got embarrassed.
I did realize that the blackbelts couldn't throw me if I didn't want them to and that I should of used my IOUF concepts. So, I entered another Shiai and was not thrown by any blackbelt, moreover I threw a blackbelt that had been to the nationals. The same one who threw me previously. I was still only a whitebelt.
Recently, I won a Ranking shiai and was awarded a brown belt.
I'm not too serious about Judo. I'm busy teaching school, teaching self-defense and teaching yoga. My goal is to show how potent IOUF is and how it truly "accelerates" your learning.
Mind you, I don't even train seriously in Judo. I never have. I go against guys who do Judo 4-5 times a week. I do it a couple times a month. The Judo class is just a place for me to use my IOUF concepts. I don't even get a chance to practice the great drills in the tapes. I just use the concepts and keep my tools sharp with "BodyFlow" and "Warrior Wellness", for there is crossover.
My judo is very sad. But, the IOUF enables me to throw and not be thrown by guys that are better than me.
Also, the concepts in IOUF are the some of same concepts master Judoka use, but they discovered it over years of trial and error...success and failure. Mr. Sonnon hands it to you on a silver platter!
I only compete now to get the word out. Maybe one of these days I'll get more serious about my Judo training and try the nationals.
04-15-2004, 03:02 PM
That is very encouraging to hear. I have recently been overwhelmed in my training, but I too see the genius behind IOUF, so I am focusing on that. I am still in "just getting it" stage. You seem to have established good comprehension of the principles.
I would like to hear how Scott's individual students from his school have done at Shiais. I believe that the two students in the tape are named Scott and Ben. Has anyone heard how they are doing at completions?
04-15-2004, 11:19 PM
Before CST took off I was training for a short time at AMC in kirkland just outside Seattle. This is Matt Humes gym I got to see alot pro fighters there and got to grapple with some of their amatuers who were trying to turn pro. I had to start from the Guard which I is not my preference but I still did better than I expected. 8)
Here's the post I detailed my adventures with,
Coach Chomycia's Adventures at the Fight Gym!
Talk to you soon!
04-17-2004, 12:26 PM
Thank you for your reply. I somehow missed your prior post. How have you been doing since then? What part has IOUF played in your success?
04-17-2004, 06:40 PM
I have been swinging Clubbells and sharing CST with the World.
IOUF was just one of the resources that helped me through those tough sparring sessions.
The other was Arthrokinetics. They helped me see the human as a collection of interconnected machines.
I followed the advice of using the principles in new and creative ways such as starting from different postions and using the principles to just put someone into another position. I also followed the advice of working with a good training partner so that I could internalize the principles.
In general I learned how the body moves functions and for Martial Art dysfunctions which enabled me to play with better people which then increase my performance ten fold.
Talk to you soon,
05-17-2010, 07:45 PM
sort of a necromancer today.....
anyway, got ahold of iouf about a year ago and worked on it with a guy that does judo (he was a long time judo player and black belt).
only worked on it twice with him. his next tournament (admittedly a small one, not sure who through..... not a judo competitor) he won. he beat all his opponents in exactly the same way. he would pull the arm, opponent would pull back, and he would guide them to triangle point and then utilized something similar to a baseball choke. same sequence, each match taking a few seconds.
granted, he was adept at switching hands and baiting, as befits someone who has competed as long as he had, but the basic structure of his attack didn't change a bit.
done and done.
it was rather strange looking to watch. afterward he said he felt kinda like he cheated because he really didn't put any kind of effort into what he did. he was simply duplicating what he saw at the beginning of the dvd.
had originally thought this event to be a fluke, but reading the above posts, it seems that this sort of thing could be commonplace.
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