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sarfraz yousaf
09-17-2008, 02:33 PM
hello i am currently training for a amateur boxing fight. My question is how do you progress on the bags what do you do for gpp,spp etc and all other skills should you focus on a few moves or a variety. I have read that when sparring you should improvise from 1 of the books i have does this mean that you should practise techniqes but once you go in the ring you improvise the skills you have.
nootropic
09-20-2008, 08:43 AM
I just hit the bag in 3 hit combos, practice moving in and out, working different combinations of 3 hit combos like jab, straight, jab or straight jab straight, my favorite though is right hook left hook right hook =) it makes the bag move more so iono probably tells me it's good. aum I do suggest practicing jabs only though, then straights, etc.. It totally is a different feeling when you land a good straight or jab, instead of a crushing feeling forceful feeling, it's more like quick shift feeling that leaves you feeling light in the end. iono these are just my personal observations and I honestly can say I haven't mastered or competed yet and even may sound foolish but hey we've all gotta start somewhere. well good luck man, hope you win.
Coach Jones
09-21-2008, 07:19 PM
The biggest and easiest mistake to make is focusing too early and too much on bag training. The first step should be focusing on your foundational skills.
The heavy bag is a great tool for working your power and a little bit of movement, but many athletes focus so much on the bag that they become great at bagwork and fall apart against even a small amount of pressure with a live opponent.
Training "for a fight" depends largely on where you are on the timeline.
nootropic
09-23-2008, 11:49 AM
The biggest and easiest mistake to make is focusing too early and too much on bag training. The first step should be focusing on your foundational skills.
The heavy bag is a great tool for working your power and a little bit of movement, but many athletes focus so much on the bag that they become great at bagwork and fall apart against even a small amount of pressure with a live opponent.
Training "for a fight" depends largely on where you are on the timeline.
I felt that a bit playing with my cousin, normally I outstrike him due to having faster reflexes but at that moment it felt like i literally lost my essential movements.
I was thinking of incorporating shadow boxing with heavybag as a combined exercise. For example I throw a jab near the bag and follow it up with a cross and left hook to the bag. I don't see the downside of doing so, any tips would be greatly appreciated =)
Coach Jones
09-23-2008, 11:56 AM
I wouldn't necessarily say there's a dwn side to what you're suggesting. Rather, that it very much depends on where your skills are.
Power and speed support mechanics. Get the mechanics down and the sky is the limit on how much you can improve when you add the supporting attributes.
A lot of fighters become masters of the heavy bag. The trouble is that fighting is much more than hitting hard (which is the primary training value of the heavy bag).
Mitt training, with purpose, I find to be incredibly important. Also, progressive drills which lead up over time into sparring.
What usually impedes athlete's progression is a lack of good defense. If you can go defensively and seek good position and leverage while your training partner is punching - you'll reap huge rewards. The hard part of the fight is getting in position and it's what most fighters have trouble with.
nootropic
09-23-2008, 12:10 PM
thanks Coach
sarfraz yousaf
09-24-2008, 12:04 PM
thanks coach for your advice
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