Allow me a slightly provocative question :confused:

[jerry.mobbs]

If CST is a health first system, why is there not even a sticky on nutrition?

[deckard]

Why should there be one?

[Coach Clavijo]

There used to be something like that on the forum I think. Maybe a sticky would come across as "rules", and not guidelines.

I'm only guessing, but maybe it's because each of us has idiosyncratic biochemistry. One shoe may not fit us all with food, training, or just about anything else. Any good coach will know that much, and RMAX has some of the best.


Also, we are what we eat, and perhaps because of it, we often feel strongly about what it is we choose to "be". Some of us choose to be raw/vegan/fermented/goji, some salmon/almonds/milk/spinach, and some pop-tarts/cap'n crunch/pepsi. Sometimes those strong feelings create strong disagreements between forum members.

In the research that I did in responding to your question, I came across a rawfood thread that started to get ugly. Perhaps the Mods are looking to avoid that.

Again, only guessing.

Still, there are some CST "tips/guidelines" that you might find helpful.
http://cstminnesota.com/resources/cstnutrition.jpg
http://www.rmaxi.com/flowcoach/?p=21

[Coach Jones]

I'm only guessing, but maybe it's because each of us has idiosyncratic biochemistry. One shoe may not fit us all with food, training, or just about anything else. Any good coach will know that much, and RMAX has some of the best.


In a nutshell.


Like a lot of things, nutrition is one of those things where the more you know the more confusing it gets. People have widely varying biochemistry. How they relate to food is often vastly different.

Because of that, there isn't a specific diet that could be prescribed across the boards. Basically, there a few things to shoot for.

1. Eat clean. Avoid processed foods. Go organic and natural when the option is there.
2. Avoid simple sugars. Find them in your diet and get rid of 'em.
3. Watch your calories in and calories out. In doing this, YOU have to become active in your own nutrition. There is no abslolute formula that applies here for everybody and even in one individual will vary constantly.

It's a complex subject for sure and I for one am far from an expert. For me, you just can't beat eating clean, watching your calorie intake (portion control) and training.

Since coming off my injuries of last year, I am now having to pay particular attention to my nutrition in order to get back where I need to be. Im making great progress, following the above ideas and seeing the results I want and expect. I'll be raring to go for the next IC.;)

Oh, and another reason there isn't a big sticky is this...

CST is about health first. Nutrition is an important part of that - a very important part, but CST is Circular Strength Training.

In the past there have been those who have almost gone on tyrades about which diet of the day they believe is the best, all the while neglecting any daily personal practice or consistent physical training.

Personally, I don't go for the "you are what you eat" idea. I prefer you are how you live. eating is a part of that but so is exercise, mobility, environment and enjoyment. You ARE all of those things rolled up in one. Sit in front of the XBOX all day everyday and I don't care if your eating ho-hos or carrots.

[jerry.mobbs]

Why should there be one?

To complete the system?

Nutrition is a huge part of performance and long term health.

It just struck me as odd that there was no sticky defining the CST position, when there is for other parts such as Prasara etc.

I don't think it needs to be a recommendation for one 'diet', that will just start off 'the great internet diet war', but at least something that outlines CSTs position on nutrition.

Just a thought thats all.

[shadow]

There did used to be a sticky...

anyways this is essentially it right here:

http://www.rmaxinternational.com/flowcoach/?p=21

[jerry.mobbs]

Cheers D,

Thats a pretty good write up.

[deckard]

To complete the system?

Nutrition is a huge part of performance and long term health.



I asked because Scott is a master of sports and I totally agree with Coach Jones due to the widely varying biochemistry. Because of the genetic and cultural background more detailed nutrition recommendations should vary for an asien, european or african. And that's only for eating for health. Eating for optimal performance should be much more individual.

A few months ago he wrote an article about the Halo effect. Because he is an expert in movement/sports/fitness many people believe he is an expert in everything. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate his opinions, experiences and recherche in other fields than his domain. But I take it with a bigger grain of salt compared to the opinion of friend who is very intelligent, well educated and thoughtfull of what he says but not necessarily a greater expert or amateur than I am. I listen to him, I think about it and eventually I will try some of it for a period of time. But I would try more, harder and longer due to recommendations of an expert in his domain because probabillity is higher it will work and I don't waste my time.

I hope it is clear that I don't talk about disrespect just about differentiation.

[jerry.mobbs]

Deckard,

I see where your coming from.

I just thought that a sticky explaining these points might make the forum more 'complete'.

Jerry

[monkwhy]

People have widely varying biochemistry. How they relate to food is often vastly different.

1. Eat clean. Avoid processed foods. Go organic and natural when the option is there.
2. Avoid simple sugars. Find them in your diet and get rid of 'em.
3. Watch your calories in and calories out. In doing this, YOU have to become active in your own nutrition. There is no abslolute formula that applies here for everybody and even in one individual will vary constantly.


Agree. I followed Coach Trans Diet Diary Concept. I gathered a lot of general information here on the forum and cleaned up my diet (http://www.rmaxinternational.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15200), removed sugars etc etc. and over a 6 month period I wrote down everything I ate, how I felt before and after. every day. tweeked and tweeked until i found MY optimal diet. Maxed out my energy levels, feel amazing all the time.

Pretty sure Coach Sonnon mentioned Diet diaries as well.
Really helps to sort out whats right for YOU!

heres a link to Coach Trans Food Log
http://www.rmaxinternational.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9386

[lorenzodamarith]

hello,

just wondering if anyone has experienced this:

dread of meal time...

it has gotten to the point lately, that food is looked forward to, due to hunger. however, the thought of a meal brings queesiness. often feeling ill after finished eating for the day.

got rid of the soda, no more cool aid, no more desserts, no more breakfast cereal. feeling a bit better, but still not great.

it is strange, but sometimes, will fantasize about a big pile of broccoli. no dip. just broccoli.

also, getting kinda tired of constantly feeling "stuffed", even when not eating for several hours.

any thoughts on this?

thanks

[deckard]

Lorenzo,

have you ever thought of the possibility of a food allergy?
There were many possible symptoms like an itchy throat, irritated skin, feeling bloated or permanent diarrhoe. Just to name a few.

But there are many other reasons too. I'm sure everyone would agree that you should consult your doc.

[lorenzodamarith]

hello,

deckard, never thought about that. might have to look into it.

it pays to have another set of eyes on a problem, neh?

thanks

[shadow]

I know exactly what you mean as I have been there myself.

Knowing you are hungry but not wanting to eat.... why?

Poor food choices.

My hypothesis:

body associates food with feeling sick (i.e. after feelings from poor food choices).

In my experience as one shifts from an unhealthy diet towards a healthy one the body becomes sensitive again and all that dull, sick feeling that was hidden just because it was chronic (sensory overload) starts to come back as the layers come off.

Make correct food choices and you'll be fine.

Also from my experience.
:)

[monkwhy]

lorenzodamarith

Also when I changed from eating rubbish to a healthy diet, I made the change slowly, spread out over 6 months which made for a very smooth transition. However When my wife went through it, she did it much faster, and went through the same sick feelings.

What I mean by slowly, is say, only drinking less then, removing Soda from my diet, then the with other sugar fill products, leaving the rest of your diet the same, and so on and so on.
(All this information is here on the forum as well, I didnt know any of this before i came here) ;)

Make sure you Diary everything you eat, this is a massive help in understanding how YOUR body reacts to what you put in it. I cant stress this enough.

It all takes time.
Your on the right path though. Keep it up. :)

[RonP]

I didn't look back too far in the archives. I thought it would be fitting in this thread to mention the Paleo Diet. Isn't so much a structured diet as it is rules of what to eat. Been following it. Have never before mixed so much protein along with much in the way of vegetables and fruits. It's like I not only have wings. I can fly now. A very interesting read for anyone into performance diet. Very interesting reading their reasoning and research.
I like very much what Coach Sonnon wrote on diet.

[lorenzodamarith]

hello,

have heard mention of the paleodiet. read a VERY cursory description of it. guess it might be worth looking at in depth.

thanks