Next Clubbell Selection

[rbrown]

Hello, I'm trying to determine what is the best next step in Clubbell progression for me, taking into account where I'm at physically as well as financially.

Currently, I have 1 15# Clubbell and am in the midst of a Density Cycle with the Bullwhip on my way to a 100 rep Death March. I have no good idea where I will be at physically when I reach the end of this cycle, but I know in some respects I will be a new man...and ready for new challenges.

So I am wondering if I should buy another 15#'er and begin doing double Clubbell exercises...or buy one heavier Clubbell and continue doing one handed exercises with heavier weight...or buy two heavier Clubbells so I can do both one and two-handed exercises with heavier weight. Now, these things aint cheap (at least not for me) so I don't even know if I can consider two more Clubbells right now...but still want that option in my options in case I can.

I'm not sure, with what I will have gained by the end of this Density Cycle, what weight Clubbell to get. I suspect 15's will feel somewhat light, but will 2 15's feel light in light of the additional stresses on my body and mind in performing 2-arm exercises?

So, what would my "best" option be if I were to be able to buy up to 2 Clubbells of any weight and my goals are to continue to challenge myself (strength, endurance and sophistication) for the longest possible time before needing more Clubbells? (I doubt I'll be ready for the Bruiser any time soon!)

1 more 15#
1 20#
2 20#

My guess is 2 20's, but wonder if skipping to 25's is feasable. Maybe a 25#'er could be a Mini-Bruiser?

Anyway, thanks for any advice you can give!

[Mike]

I think Rmax is releasing a 35 lb. mini bruiser soon.

I'd go with a 20 lber!

[Dan Chomycia]

What are your goals?

And what is your name?
You didn't sign your post, so I don't know who I'm addressing!

Give us a some idea of where you are heading so we can help you get there. :wink:

In general if you want to make the most of your equiment. I reccomend Dougs new manual C4 (http://www.profcs.com/app/aftrack.asp?afid=79892&u=http://www.clubbell.tv/corecadre.html). It details the ways to go deeper into your Clubbell Training creating more sophisticated Combination Routines that could be thrown into Density Cycles for conditioning. Doing a density cycle with all of the CST Exercises would create one extraordinary athlete!

Talk to you soon!

[rbrown]

Coach Dan, thanks for your reply. I did sign my initial post. It's part of my sig, so it's there automatically.

Actually, I did buy both your book and Coach Szolek's, and both look very interesting and useful. I plan to use both of them.

My goals are to continue to gain in strength, endurance and movement sophistication. I really just want overall/holistic health and fitness. To feel and move like a much younger person. An emphasis on martial arts would be good, but I train martial arts at home and usually solo...so it's not like I'm training for a tournament or anything.

I think my question boils down to:

A) Is it better to move to double-Clubbell with lighter weight (15#) or move up in weight with a single Clubbell? I suspect double CB is better.

B) If moving up in weight with a single CB, how much more weight?

C) If moving up in weight with double CB, how much more weight?

As far as the weight selection goes, 2 factors work against me in making a good choice. I don't know how a jump in 5 or 10 pounds will feel with a Clubbell and I don't know what I'll be able to handle by the time I'm done with my Density Cycle.

Thanks for the advice so far!

[Coach Billew]

Mr. Brown,

In my opinion I would go with the second 15. I only had one 15 for the first several months that I worked with Clubbells, and I found that when I did get a second 15 the experience of training with two simultaneously was very different from only swinging one club. Also its more cost effective.

just my $.02

[Dan Chomycia]

Robert,

I don't know why I couldn't see your name, :oops:

Anyway for your goals I think working through Coach Szoleks manual and sophisticating your practice would be ideal for your goals. Getting 2 Clubbells would also increase your sophistication because of the unique challenge that they present.

Since you are interested in Longevity you should move very slowly when it comes to adding weight. For Martial Art you must strive to be more creative in your expression of CST creating new Combination Routines. Then testing your new strength with other cycles and protocols.

What good is your strength if it doesn't hold up when it counts?
This attribute of being able to perpetually sophisticate your practice is in my opinion; a large part of what martial art is about! :wink:

Thanks for getting the books bro!
Spend some time digesting Mobilized Strength (http://www.profcs.com/app/aftrack.asp?afid=79892&u=http://www.circularstrength.com/mobilized.html)and C4 (http://www.profcs.com/app/aftrack.asp?afid=79892&u=http://www.circularstrength.com/corecadre.html).
When you have made your decision we will be at the Program Design Help Desk to help you.

Talk to you soon!

[rbrown]

Coach Dan, my name is so darn common it probably just didn't register. :wink: Thanks for the advice and thanks to Slade and Mike as well. You have verified what I figured was the best path...so another 15# will be ordered soon.

Once again, thanks all for the input.