Shot put training

[123 MMA]

What do you think of throwing a shot put to develop punching power and grip strength?

Just an idea I had.

[Chuck Kechter]

The shot put can be a fun tool to use, but the mechanics of throwing a shot and throwing a punch are very different...

Watch some YouTube videos on each and you'll see what I mean...

So using a shot might be in counterpoint to what you want to achieve.

And as for grip, in my experience there are multiple tools that work the grip better than a shot: CBs, KBs, thick bar lifting, farmer walks, rope climbing, towel pull ups, et cetera...

[123 MMA]

The shot put can be a fun tool to use, but the mechanics of throwing a shot and throwing a punch are very different...

Watch some YouTube videos on each and you'll see what I mean...

So using a shot might be in counterpoint to what you want to achieve.

And as for grip, in my experience there are multiple tools that work the grip better than a shot: CBs, KBs, thick bar lifting, farmer walks, rope climbing, towel pull ups, et cetera...

Yep I know they are quite different, but I was thinking of throwing crosses with normal technique and throwing the shot put, not doing the normal shot put throw.

I thought it would be a very interesting and exciting exercise to mix things up with.

[Scott Sonnon]

Loading a specific skill with resistance registers to the nervous system as a new technique. As a result, you will create two competing skills, which eventually diminishes your primary skill.

This is the reason for the meticulous science underpinning human performance in CST. Concentrate on following the programs rather than dabbling with sport-specific techniques. Leave those to trained coaches (either in real life, or online), and focus on getting your basics mastered, especially at your age. Focus or you're just going to make the process longer and more troublesome.

Get yourself a copy of Brandon Jones' "Going Ballistic" and follow it.

[123 MMA]

Loading a specific skill with resistance registers to the nervous system as a new technique. As a result, you will create two competing skills, which eventually diminishes your primary skill.

This is the reason for the meticulous science underpinning human performance in CST. Concentrate on following the programs rather than dabbling with sport-specific techniques. Leave those to trained coaches (either in real life, or online), and focus on getting your basics mastered, especially at your age. Focus or you're just going to make the process longer and more troublesome.

Get yourself a copy of Brandon Jones' "Going Ballistic" and follow it.

Ok thanks Scott, I'll give look into the book.

When I was watching Mayweather/ Marquez 24/7, Marquez was doing rock throwing, do you think this would do the ssme as you said, diminishing his primary skill?

[Scott Sonnon]

Stop watching how athletes are training. What you don't realize, what you unfortunately only come to learn after investing hundreds of thousands of dollars training with the world's best coaches, Olympic and national, is that most professional athletes do well in spite of how they train, not because of it.

My life never worked that way because of my physical and learning disabilities. I had to have intelligent training technologies because I wasn't part of the 2% who would do well in spite of piss poor coaching. Unintelligent training practices destroyed me (almost mortally several times.)

For me to win international championships in two different sports, to set and hold world records, is a testimony to how someone like myself, swimming upstream from the shallow end of the gene pool, can become a champion athlete. I had to be both coach and athlete, always.

Now, if you fancy yourself a fan of those athletes and want to mimic what they do, then expect hardship, injuries and poor performance. Perhaps you're one of the few for whom it won't matter how you train.

Lastly, what you see of sports-specific training WHEN EXECUTED PROPERLY happens at the end of training cycles, not at your age, not at the beginning.

Get to work with the basics. Don't pop up your head for 2 years. It takes 7-13 years to create a world class athlete. In these first two years, kick your ass, ask questions only for what to do next. And I promise you that you'll gush with gratitude at your success.

[123 MMA]

Stop watching how athletes are training. What you don't realize, what you unfortunately only come to learn after investing hundreds of thousands of dollars training with the world's best coaches, Olympic and national, is that most professional athletes do well in spite of how they train, not because of it.

My life never worked that way because of my physical and learning disabilities. I had to have intelligent training technologies because I wasn't part of the 2% who would do well in spite of piss poor coaching. Unintelligent training practices destroyed me (almost mortally several times.)

For me to win international championships in two different sports, to set and hold world records, is a testimony to how someone like myself, swimming upstream from the shallow end of the gene pool, can become a champion athlete. I had to be both coach and athlete, always.

Now, if you fancy yourself a fan of those athletes and want to mimic what they do, then expect hardship, injuries and poor performance. Perhaps you're one of the few for whom it won't matter how you train.

Lastly, what you see of sports-specific training WHEN EXECUTED PROPERLY happens at the end of training cycles, not at your age, not at the beginning.

Get to work with the basics. Don't pop up your head for 2 years. It takes 7-13 years to create a world class athlete. In these first two years, kick your ass, ask questions only for what to do next. And I promise you that you'll gush with gratitude at your success.

I would say im a person who does stick to the basics and I havent had any major injuries in my 5 years training martial arts and 1 year strength and conditioning training.

I see what your saying but I dont think im the type who does lots of crazy training that could cause injuries, I just thought that it would be a good specific exercise. What did you mean by dont pop up your head for two years?

Thanks for the responses.

[Scott Sonnon]

I don't see your name in your profile, so I can't respond to you politely. Please insert it.

You say that you're not one for crazy exercises, but you proposed this thread. That's the danger. Don't think that only playing the didgeridoo on a swissball pressing a kettlebell is crazy. Crazy is anything that hampers your intelligent progress. And as an athlete, accept that you're a danger to yourself, especially at your age. I'm 40, a champion in multiple sports, creator of an array of performance enhancement conditioning systems, and I still have someone triple check my training and watch over me... because I've learned the hard-way that only intelligent, consistent training works in the long run.

Don't pop your head up for 2 years means, get yourself hooked up with a CST Coach, follow the programs crafted for two solid years, and you're guaranteed to have mastered the basics.

[123 MMA]

I don't see your name in your profile, so I can't respond to you politely. Please insert it.

You say that you're not one for crazy exercises, but you proposed this thread. That's the danger. Don't think that only playing the didgeridoo on a swissball pressing a kettlebell is crazy. Crazy is anything that hampers your intelligent progress. And as an athlete, accept that you're a danger to yourself, especially at your age. I'm 40, a champion in multiple sports, creator of an array of performance enhancement conditioning systems, and I still have someone triple check my training and watch over me... because I've learned the hard-way that only intelligent, consistent training works in the long run.

Don't pop your head up for 2 years means, get yourself hooked up with a CST Coach, follow the programs crafted for two solid years, and you're guaranteed to have mastered the basics.

I am going to get a a CST coach, Vik Hothi is the nearest to me so I look forward to working with him when I am out of my debt problem.