Fibanocci Sequence Within The 4x7?

[exp626]

Maybe I'm just blind, but I am not seeing how the fibanocci sequence relates to the 4x7. However, I am constantly seeing it referenced - both online and in material such as BER and now the new TACFIT Commando programs.

The sequence appears to have little relation to a 4x7 ... 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21 ... presuming we start with a No Intensity day we only land on a peak at the end of micro cycles 1, 3, and 5.

Tried looking through the CST Mag archives, but the only references I found thus far Coach states his peak days were falling X number of days after prior peaks where X is a point within the sequence.

What am I missing that ties it in with the 4x7?

[deckard]

The sequence appears to have little relation to a 4x7 ... 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21 ... presuming we start with a No Intensity day we only land on a peak at the end of micro cycles 1, 3, and 5.


For example take a look at the RPD of the No, Low, Medium and High days: 1, 3, 5 and 8 (or more for the high day). Use the forum search engine and will find more.

[Scott Sonnon]

There are several embedded fib waves... such as the 28 days, being composed of 7 four-day cycles.
The four day cycle is a biochemical fib of peaking: 1 (no intensity), 1 (low intensity), 2 (moderate intensity), 3 (high intensity).
The seven cycles peak as well: 1 (cycle 1), 1 (cycle 2), 2 (cycles 3-4), 3 (cycles 5-7).
The rate of perceived exertion as Andreas mentions...
The math is a mystery of nature... but a beautiful golden mean. The crescendo on day 28... is sublime. But it demands strict compliance to "nudge" poor movement and nutrition habits back into biorhythmic alignment.

[exp626]

Okay, that makes sense if we are using it more in the sense of representing the way it graduates up. I was looking for the actual sequence within the numbers in some way which was especially confusing since there are no back-offs in the sequence but we do back-off within the macro cycle. :)

Thanks.

[Scott Sonnon]

Chris in reflecting over the years of training logs, peaks happened not according to calendar, but rather the cumulative effect of effectively waving the ratio of work and recovery.

[exp626]

Makes sense Coach. There are times when I can really feel the benefit of the 4x7 and others when it just seems off for me. I can only attribute that to not tracking/accounting for everything necessary in my journals and thus not making the proper adjustments along the way. It seems the RP[ETD] scales are really only a part of the equation, nutrition/sleep/family/work all appear to factor in in some way.

[Scott Sonnon]

There is one thing: everything. The way you do one thing is the way you do everything. Precise, consistent, and with appropriate intensity and full awareness.

[exp626]

So what happens when an aspect of life throws a high intensity situation into your low intensity day for example?

Especially in the case of the new TACFIT Commando stuff as I could see this being especially applicable to operators. Obviously we don't get the luxury of planning crisis. Do you just scrap that micro-cycle with enough no/low days to recover and then get back to it, or is there a better way?

Sorry this has kind of gone off on a tangent. If I should start a new thread let me know.

[Scott Sonnon]

I addressed that in the recent Ustream.

[exp626]

I caught the first one, but missed the second - did the video recorder function for that one?

[Ryan Murdock]

Chris,

Stay tuned to your email. We'll have the video up later today.

[exp626]

Wonderful! Thanks Ryan.

[Ryan Murdock]

For those of you who missed our live Ustream conference the other day, the recording is now up:

Coach Sonnon's Live TACFIT Commando Ustream Conference (http://tinyurl.com/yejfuax)

[Zig]

There are several embedded fib waves...The math is a mystery of nature... but a beautiful golden mean. The crescendo on day 28... is sublime. But it demands strict compliance to "nudge" poor movement and nutrition habits back into biorhythmic alignment.

Don't know if anyone else here has read it, but the paper below relates to corticle rhythms being related to (or, expressable as functions of) the Golden Mean. If brain wave patterns can be shown to follow Phi this closely, it is interesting to think about the broader implications of that fact and indeed the longer cycle biorhythms that Coach Sonnon is talking about above.

The following paper is by Harald Weiss and Volkmar Weiss and was written in 2003. I found it through wiki, naturally.

http://www.v-weiss.de/chaos.html

There's an interesting thesis for some quantum biologist in all this, shame I don't know one really...