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BmCoomes
07-30-2010, 07:13 AM
I've been working on a personal program to get ready for hunting. Here is what I have so far.
"Hunter" (The Spot: getting to the animals)
The spot is characterized by covering ground to get into the habitat and finding target game animal.
Dominant Energy System: Cardio (leg endurance)
"Predator" (The Stalk: getting into range)
The stalk is characterized by stealthily moving into range of target game animal.
Dominant Energy System: Static-Endurance
"Reaper" (The Haul Out: getting the animal out)
The haul out is characterized by lifting, carrying, and dragging a load over distance.
Dominant Energy System: Power-Endurance
Reaper workout:
For Time, Complete 4 round of the following circuit:
200 yard Tire Drag
25 ROPE Chest Press
200 yard Farmers Carry
25 ROPE Back Rows
12 Tractor Tire Flips
25 Dumbbell Clean and Jerks
I've started from the last task and working backwards. This is my first draft so far. Any input, insights, comments, questions, and concerns are welcome.
HereBeADragon
07-30-2010, 10:19 AM
Looks like a pretty interesting idea. When I first read the thread title I pictured someone hiding in the bushes with a clubbell waiting to bash a deer. :D
What type of hunting are you planning? Might make an important difference in your prep.
BmCoomes
07-30-2010, 05:14 PM
The next season is Elk, but our hunting style and areas there not much difference. We hunt the same area for Dear, Elk, Bear, and Turkey. Plus if we come across Cougar we have tags for them too but with them we don't really "Hunt" them we counter-predator.
I got a good laugh about the clubbell and bashing the dear.
HereBeADragon
07-30-2010, 06:02 PM
What do you hunt with? Rifle? Bow? Spear? All are fun.
BmCoomes
07-30-2010, 06:21 PM
Muzzle-loader and shotgun (turkey). Which puts my max effective range at about 100 yards. But we most take shots at 80 yrds or less.
hammer_2020
07-31-2010, 08:47 AM
Sounds like a really interesting idea, Brent! Looking forward to seeing how this develops :)
Brian: I found myself mildly disappointed there wasn't a SLAYER workout...y'know, for when he tears a bear to pieces with nothing but his hands and teeth :D
BmCoomes
07-31-2010, 09:15 AM
LOL, that is funny about the "Slayer"
Right now I'm fleshing out "Hunter" which will be using the Tabata protocol with four to six exercises that will mostly target leg endurance and cardio development.
My idea with "Predator" is BME flows like TacFit Commandos Spetsnaz Escape and Evasion. I'm actually thinking of using it so I can get a better feel for it and then build some custom flows for "Predator". Out of all the ares of CST that is were my experience lacks.
BmCoomes
07-31-2010, 10:23 AM
OK so I've finish hammering out things so I'll be moving into field testing it soon. So here is what I've come up with. I was going to start the tri-level cycle with "Predator" then move on to "Reaper" and lastly "Hunter" so that would be three 28 day cycles. (which I only have enough time for two so I'm already going to modify it)
"Hunter"
For each exercise complete 8 sets of 20 seconds of work and 10 seconds of rest with 1 minute of rest between exercises.
• Double Clubbell®® Rock-it’s
• Plyo-box step-ups
• Hand-gunner Clubbell®® Press
• Lunges
• Takedown get-up complex (Spinal rock pike to tadpole sprawl)
• Speed Rope Jumps
"Predator"
TacFit Commando Spetsnaz escape and evasion Flow for 20 minutes
"Reaper"
For Time, Complete 4 round of the following circuit:
• 200 yard Tire Drag (Double Tire)
• 25 ROPE Chest Press
• 200 yard Farmers Carry (20 lbs)
• 25 ROPE Back Rows
• 12 Tractor Tire Flips
• 25 Dumbbell Clean and Jerks (20 lbs)
hammer_2020
07-31-2010, 08:42 PM
A thought, Brent - is there any climbing for vantage to be done in your hunting? If so, uphill alligator crawls or vertical rope sprints (or even tree, depending) might be a useful addition.
BmCoomes
07-31-2010, 09:21 PM
Nope, we have logging roads a plenty that give us good vantage or they lead to easy access vantage areas.
Though I was thinking of alligator crawls for "Predator" after I get my feet wet with the BME flows.
Thanks for the input though it does help.
hammer_2020
08-01-2010, 09:07 AM
Glad to help, Brent. This thread tickles my fancy because I'm thinking of going wild boar-hunting north of the border in Malaysia with a family friend sometime. One thing I neglected to mention with the climbing is that it would also function as a useful safety valve for when things go south and you have an enraged animal charging your way :D
BmCoomes
08-01-2010, 10:17 AM
I would love to spear hunt some boar. As much as a good idea as would seem to climb out of danger I would have to say it's a fallacy. We just don't move fast enough to get to safety by running and climbing, your best bet is to get some thing between you and the animal and dispatch it by any means. There are plenty of stories were hunter have saved there hoop by using there rifle has a barrier and shooting the animal with there side arm. Plus around here any animal you would really climb from can climb after you too.
BmCoomes
08-01-2010, 12:40 PM
Field Test One: "Reaper"
Completed Two round in 28:30 (min/sec)
200 yrd Tire Drap (double tire)
25 ROPE Chest Presses
200 yrd Farmers carry (40 lbs 2x20)
20 ROPE Back Rows
12 Tractor Tire Flips
25 Dumbbell Clean and Jerks (20 lbs)
Peak Hear Rate: 180 bpm
RPE: 9
RPD: 0
RPT: 8 to 9
I was only able to complete two round due to hydration level and ambient temp which I'm not use to working out in. I'm right in the zone of my level of resistance. I think this will work out just right. Next field test will be "Hunter" in a few days.
hammer_2020
08-01-2010, 08:08 PM
Deer and elk can climb? O_O (kidding, of course)
HereBeADragon
08-01-2010, 11:10 PM
I've got a couple ideas.
In your Hunter wouldn't longer endurance be more the goal than tabata? If your interest is getting to the site than that is going to be more about long distance running and carrying equipment isnt it?
I like Reaper but have some thoughts coming to mind. For starters you should consider adding pull ups to this. Another idea that comes to mind is making use of sandbags. Might be a closer simulator for what your doing. For example the C&J with a sandbag is a pretty interesting experience. Also dragging a 100lbs sandbag for 200 yards would beat the farmers carry you've got up there as would hefting one up on your shoulder and running with it.
BmCoomes
08-02-2010, 12:43 AM
I've got a couple ideas.
In your Hunter wouldn't longer endurance be more the goal than tabata? If your interest is getting to the site than that is going to be more about long distance running and carrying equipment isnt it?
I like Reaper but have some thoughts coming to mind. For starters you should consider adding pull ups to this. Another idea that comes to mind is making use of sandbags. Might be a closer simulator for what your doing. For example the C&J with a sandbag is a pretty interesting experience. Also dragging a 100lbs sandbag for 200 yards would beat the farmers carry you've got up there as would hefting one up on your shoulder and running with it.
Due to the terrain burst-recovery-burst is a closer match. I'll link a Google map of the area. Carrying equipment is correct that is the level 2 of the plan, wearing my hunting boots and my loaded pack while doing the workout. I would love to do pull-ups but I have to address them on there own to get to a better level before it's feasible for a tabata. Again I would love to use Sandbags because they would be better but I don't have any so I'm using what I have to start with.
Here (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=
118438190859226036540.00048cd1f618cc1259eff) is the Google map. To get an idea of the terrain use the earth feature.
BmCoomes
08-05-2010, 01:08 PM
Field Test Two: "Hunter"
Tabata Protocol
Double Clubbell Rock-it's 12
Ply-box Step-ups 9
Handgunner Clubbell Press var1 4
Front Lunges 5
Takedown Complex 0
Speed Rope jumps 30
Score 60
RPE: 8
RRD: 1
RPT: 8 to 9
The hand-gunner varrent is after you press out you scan up, down, left, and right then bring in the clubbell turn 90 degrees and press out again.
The Takedown get-up complex is just to complex for me right now so I'm going to change it out with something I'm not sure what as of yet.
Other than that is was a great workout right on target.
wildman
08-05-2010, 02:27 PM
"Predator"
TacFit Commando Spetsnaz escape and evasion Flow for 20 minutes
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note: this is an awesome concept and design thus far. i'm totally going to squirl this away for the future.
question: what the ..... is the spetsnaz E&E flow?? i've been away from the forum for awhile.. Did i miss this?
BmCoomes
08-05-2010, 02:49 PM
note: this is an awesome concept and design thus far. i'm totally going to squirl this away for the future.
question: what the ..... is the spetsnaz E&E flow?? i've been away from the forum for awhile.. Did i miss this?
Thanks, yes please try it out and use it. Let us know how it goes and any changes you try too.
The Spetsnaz E&E flow is from some of the bounus material from TacFit Commando. When I get home I can try decodeing it in to a list.
Thanks,
BmCoomes
08-07-2010, 06:17 PM
Looking around Coach Sonnon has that flow posted on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdWUUVTkQ-E
I'm thinking of changing out the takedown get-up complex with the Quad-hop or the spinal rock I'm still thinking it over.
But in the mean time I'll be starting the "reaper" cycle soon in the next day or two.
BmCoomes
08-14-2010, 11:22 AM
Well I started the first cycle of "Reaper" and have been logging it Here (http://www.rmaxi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22392).
I have already been tweaking it so that I don't injure myself. If you been following then you know that I'm changing the tire flip, I'm thinking of changing it to Front Lunges so that I'm still working my legs but without the wear and tear on my back.
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