Deeper recovery ???

[Coach Mohrdieck]

Hello Tribe!

I'm looking for ways to take care of my wrist. I'm doing Qigong, Warrior Wellness and Body Flow as regular as it'S possible for me, but I think my wrists need some "extra care" or I need to be able to get deeper in Qigong and Warrior Wellness for recover...

My wrist and fingers are build gentle and small and I have a tendonitis in my right wrist for about one year (I am right-handed). Additional to the above I'm getting acupunture.

I live from teaching Karate and BJJ and in both I have to use my grip a lot.
Before my tendonitis I did Chishi training, which is more or less similar to Clubbell swinging, but stoped it after the injury.

I feel all my training should be no problem for my wrists, but I need something for deeper recovery on the other side.

Thanks for reading my words and if you have ideas or similar experience please share it!

[Scott Sonnon]

Can you describe what specifically in your chishi training caused the issue?

How often do you perform Warrior Wellness with your wrist througought the day?

What is your daily vocation?

[Coach Mohrdieck]

Can you describe what specifically in your chishi training caused the issue?

I lifted the Chishi and let it hang behind my back then pulled it in front( over the center line or over the shoulder) with keeping my elbow close to the body. After that control it in front with by keeping it stable for a moment.


How often do you perform Warrior Wellness™ with your wrist througought the day?

Warrior Wellness for my wrist: two to three times a couple of minutes

full WW: at the moment two or three days per week, in a few weeks I have more space for it.



What is your daily vocation?

Mainly I teach martial arts afternoon (children) and evening(adults). Every thursday morning I teach Qigong and Martial Arts for actors.
Saturday morning I have a Karate class.
Sunday is free with my girl.
I'm going to the university for one to two days the week and try to recover in my free time.

Warm regards,

Raimar

[Coach Billew]

Raimar,

What do you teach in your martial arts for actors class?

[Scott Sonnon]

Have you had a physician look at the issue? How long have you been performing Warrior Wellness daily? It took me about seven months to recover and go beyond my prior strength in my wrist (after breaking it at World Games.)

[Coach Gostnell]

When I was just beginning Warrior Wellness, I was troubled a lot by tendinitis in the right elbow. I'd been seeing a massage therapist who specializes in myofascial release. Mentioned it to her & she worked on it twice - DRAMATIC improvement.

My other recent observation: I've used nutritional Blue Green Algae from Klamath Lake for about 10 years, but ran out some months ago & just didn't re-order until recently. Also experiencing a lot of stiffness in fingers, wrists and elbows at night & in the morning recently. Decided to get back on the Blue Green now that I've had a 5 month break & see if there's any effect.

My "control" was my 15 year old Standard Poodle, Roxanne, who began to have difficulty with arthritis at about that age. Started her first on aspirin, then got the Blue Green Algae into her diet. Within a couple weeks, I discontinued the aspirin and she romped around like a puppy for the next three years until she was felled by a stroke at age 18+.

Only once in three years was she off the algae: when we were gone for a week & I didn't ask the dog sitter to give it to her. When we returned, she couldn't get up to greet us, only raise her head. Within three or four days of being back on Blue Green, she was better, and after a week, gamboling about as before. (Don't think the placebo effect works on dogs. :) )

[Coach Mohrdieck]

Slade Billew:

What do you teach in your martial arts for actors class?


I focus on Taiji Qigong with some impact from the White Crane Qigong and some briefly meditation practice.

After we train martial arts where I use the principles from my Karate (and Jiu Jitsu) studies but use it "informal".

In my opinion it's essetial for actor to being rooted to the floor, to have a good and deep breath to the lower belly and to be resistent to stress, also it's a different kind of stress, but that doesn't matter.

Coach Sonnon:

Have you had a physician look at the issue? How long have you been performing Warrior Wellness™ daily? It took me about seven months to recover and go beyond my prior strength in my wrist (after breaking it at World Games.)


I went to a couple of physican with "wierd" results:
The one wanted to give my injections with cortison. The other told my I have to stop my martial art training cause me body is to weak (esspecially my wrist, hands and finger).
But I had a feeling like the both don't really know about martial art training and the both don't really care about who I be. I stop the treatment soon.

At the moment I see a chinese doctor who's doing acupuncture which has a positiv effect. He said it will take a longer time to cure my wrist.


Warrior Wellness on a daily level: more or less three weeks.
Body Flow and other exercises for physical and mental wellbeing: almost every day for years.

I just moved to the intermidiate level of Warrior Wellness and am corious of the effects!

Jean:

I'd been seeing a massage therapist who specializes in myofascial release. Mentioned it to her & she worked on it twice - DRAMATIC improvement.

Thanks for the advice. I will try to find this kind of therapist.
And I will also try to add some seafood :lol:

[Scott Sonnon]

Raimar,

In a couple months, you may see dramatic improvement. Keep going, amigo!

[Matt_OZ]

Hi guys, may I also recommend trying some gentle work to strengthen the extensor group in the forearm. The training and work you do is very heavily loaded toward flexor work. I have known a number of fellow massage therapists and sportspeople who have also been in the situation of heavily overworked flexors, I advise them to add in some extensor work and it often helps greatly. Finger extensions in a rice bucket are a great and gentle way to go, for a description and some info on them here's a link to an article I wrote about a year ago for an Aussie martial arts mag

http://www.isohealth.com.au/articles/gripwork.pdf

You'll find the extensor work toward the end of the article, it's very simple but very helpful (and it only takes about a minute or two of work for each hand each day). It's certainly worth a shot.

Good luck,
Matt :D

[KEVIN TEAGLE]

I agree with Matt's suggestion for extensor work. The forearm is the one area of the body that uses both flexors and extensors at the same time, especially when gripping. Most of the extensors have a common attatchment at the lateral epicondyle, (close to the funny bone) and should be stretched as well as strengthened. Contact your local massage therapist, chiropractor, trainer for ideas on stretching the extensors. If you have no luck, contact me and I will send a short video of forearm extensor stretches.

Dr. Kevin Teagle

[Matt_OZ]

Hi Kevin, are you the same Kevin that was at Zeta?
Matt :D

[KEVIN TEAGLE]

Alas, I am not. :( What is Zeta?

[Matt_OZ]

Zeta as in the Zeta instructor cadre certification. There was a great bunch of people there and one them was a chiro named Kevin, I thought you might be him. Oh well, I'm sure you're a great bloke too.

have a great day
Matt :D