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YankeeJoe
02-23-2005, 06:54 AM
On Monday Night's Workout, we spent a great Deal of Time on Throws. Primarily we worked from Underhook w/ "x" and Over/Under. "x" being Wrist Control, Tricep or Bicep Control, Collar or Reverse Collar Tie depending on what Murphy gave us.

One of the Guys favored the Hip Throws, and I was impacting the Ground with the bottoms of my Feet after I was whipped over as I have done since High School. HOWEVER, in High School there were weight Classes and I was thrown by Guys my size, and in my Gym now, there are no weight Classes and I am being thrown by a Partner that outweighs me by about 60#s, so the Impact is greater.

The Impact is really Intense and one of my Ankles is sore still Today. Not injury sore, but training sore if you catch my Drift. I can see that if my Feet land incorrectly by an inch or two Injury may Result.

Now, when being thrown over someone's Hip in this Intense of a Way, is there a safer Way to impact/engage the Ground w/ your Feet that you Guys use? Keep in Mind that your Arms are tied up, & you can't always Leg Thread because of how your Upper Body's are "sealed".

I am leg Threading when possible, but Murphy doesn't always allow it.

Any help would be appreciated!!! Thanks in advance Guys.

All the best,
-Joe

Scott Sonnon
02-23-2005, 07:07 AM
Joe,

Yes, there is. Can you post a video of your performance?

YankeeJoe
02-23-2005, 09:03 AM
I was about to say no, then remebered I just recently bought a Digital Camera that can take small Clips!! :-)

I will set it up ASAP. May not be until Friday though...

FWIW, in case I didn't make it clear, picture a "typical" Wrestling Hip Throw from Under-Over w/ Hips ALL THE WAY through w/ the Backstep. So after the Backstep I am looking North and he is facing West. Our Toes are facing in the respective Positions.

Then the Throw. I will go from looking Northerly to being "Somersaulted" over his Upper Back as he executes the Throw and for all intensive Purposes I am on my Back facing upwards to the Ceiling. Basically a Forward Handspring, but assisted. :P

Hope that helps!

-Joe

Scott Sonnon
02-23-2005, 12:27 PM
Joe,

I understand. However, it is not the 'arrangement' which must be considered, but your unique tension chains and density which make the issue problematic. Seeing your performance of it will allow me to offer suggestions.

It's one of the greatest benefits of the digital age and the RMAX forum! From http://www.circularstrengthmag.com/forum/images/smiles/smiley_038.gif to http://www.circularstrengthmag.com/forum/images/smiles/smiley_456.gif

Jay76
02-23-2005, 02:40 PM
Coach

OK, where do you get all those cool smiley faces?????????????????????

Coach Gostnell
02-23-2005, 02:44 PM
OK, where do you get all those cool smiley faces?????????????????????

yeah, 'fess up, Coach!

Scott Sonnon
02-23-2005, 02:54 PM
There's an easy way to figure that out! :wink:

Robbiefarai
02-25-2005, 11:47 AM
I know there is a friend of mine that really does not like break falls....I'll try not to call names ... uh ummm ( benjie ) . Any way, well we both agree on one thing that break falls or Ukemi as they are called in judo are a great teaching aid. I was in germany and I made a small mind map on Ukemi . If you like you may check it out http://robbiefarai.bluephoenixtt.com/ukemi.pdf As well when I see your video I will see if i could render any assistance. Mean while I will do my best to make some small Ukemi clips as well...Peace out

Benjiefari
02-28-2005, 06:19 AM
Two things that may assist

- Position of Assurance ( Powerful Tool )
- Soft Tissue ( keep yah bones tuh Uh Self: Pirate Voice )
- Absorpd rather than Dissapate ( Relaxation vs Slapin )


Benjie

p.s - I have no problem falling :? its the Hard Ground that I have a problem with .