Anyone have experience with DMSO

[Matt Schwartz]

Hi all,
I posted this in the alternative health section but thought I'd post here too to reach a wider audience.
Just wondering if anyone has feedback on this. I was interested in applying it to my left hip. I had a superficial surgery there to remove a lipoma 3 years ago. However, the resulting scar tissue is worse than the original lipoma, and I believe it is restricting my hip flexor. I got the book on DMSO and talked to Steve Maxwell who loves the stuff, so I thought maybe DMSO could help break that area up. Any input anyone?
Matt

[Jay76]

I use MSM, its from DSMO. Its great for joints, alleries, etc..If I would buy one 1 supplement, I would buy that one.

[Paul Keith]

are you talking about DiMethelSulfOxide?, if you are, all I know about it is that it is a contact delivery system for drugs, mainly used in equine vetrenary medicine.

[Jarlo Ilano]

If that is the same substance Paul is talking about. I remember it being taken off the shelves because of the problems of the delivery system pushing through substances that you really didn't want in you... It used to be very popular with weightlifters.

I don't know how DMSO is now.

[Matt Schwartz]

Hi guys,

Thanks for the input.

I have read a bunch about it and asked a few people with experience with it, so I made the call and started using it yesterday on my hip/back as well as a sore medial knee. Steve Maxwell, someone whose opinion I respect has had great success with the stuff for his own and others' injuries, so I'm giving it a go.

Doing 3x per day, topical application. Only side effects, both of which are well known, are mild bad breath (think sweaty oysters :shock: ) and a mild itching sensation where applied. Obviously, it is a powerful transdermal agent so I am really careful to be clean when I apply it and to stay out of anything I would not want to go through my skin.

My goal is to break up a little scar tissue as well as to encourage some constructive remodeling of small traumas in my connective tissue.

I'll report in a couple of weeks on my experience with it. Have heard good things from others.

Matt

[Paul Keith]

I always thaught dmso was illegal to obtain and own, unless one was a medical or vetrinary professional.

[Matt Schwartz]

Nope, it's legal.
Matt

[Scott Sonnon]

Matt,

I don't know anything about it, but keep us updated on your research, please.

[Matt Schwartz]

You betcha!
Matt

[Dr. Ron]

If you're looking to treat scar tissue try Emu oil in place of DMSO. It has some of the penetration qualities of DMSO however its not as likely to "carry" unwanted substances into your system. Are you talking superficial (skin) scars or internal type scar tissue?

I haven't heard of DMSO for skin scars, but as a sulphur donor it makes sense.

Emu oil good for both...internal and external.

[Matt Schwartz]

Hi Dr. Ron,
I am using it to heal scar tissue on top of my left hip abductor and hip flexor. A pool-ball sized lipoma was removed from my left hip 3 years ago. Even though it was a skin surgery I think the surgeon cut into the fascia, so I have scarring there. I had some rolfing and ART done to break it up and that helped but kind of plateaued. I have some movement restriction there that I think is contributing to some back tightness. So, I am using DMSO on it. I have used it for only 4 days now and I already feel looser in that area. I can bring my knee across my chest easier. Placebo effect? We'll see in time. I do know that DMSO is very powerful. In my book on DMSO he also says that it's great for skin scarring, as it's a collagen softener. I will try your tip on emu oil too. Thanks!
Matt

[Jay76]

I know it smells really really bad if you use it as a cream. Also its used on Race horeses to help their injuries.

[Coach Tran]

http://www.dmso.org/articles/information/muir.htm

[DaveRandolph]

I started using it about 2 weeks for my elbow tendinitis. I also started taking Glucosamince/Chondoitin/MSM combo and fish oil caps about a week before starting the DMSO

The DMSO (with aloe) has irritated the hell out of my arm. All red & scaly, & itchy so I stopped using it.

It feels better but I cant be sure why. Tues, Wed & Thurs I was in all day meetings and so wasnt on my computer (the cause of my lateral epicondylitis). It felt much better. Today I'm back on my multiple PCs at work and within a few hours I could feel it starting up again. I've been using trackballs in place of mice for about a month now. That has also helped.

[JasonE]

Tues, Wed & Thurs I was in all day meetings and so wasnt on my computer (the cause of my lateral epicondylitis). It felt much better. Today I'm back on my multiple PCs at work and within a few hours I could feel it starting up again. I've been using trackballs in place of mice for about a month now. That has also helped.

I use a mouse all day, and I feel it if I don't stop to loosen up now and then. I was recently provided with a new desktop and new mouse, and the new mouse is ridiculously non-ergonomic. I have to be proactive about joint health, as the shape of it is so unfriendly I see most of the people I work with getting stiff shoulders and arms more frequently now.

Aside from trackballs, the rotation of your forearm during use is a major factor in repetitive use problems. If your elbows are at your sides and your forearms are relaxed, noticed the angle of your palms. The only way your palms turn completely downward is if you make them. Most computer mice require you to rotate palms completely downward and hold that position whenever using them. What happens when you hold a sustained contraction many times per day? It can become chronic. Chronic tension doesn't go away unless you address it directly. How many computer users address that tension during the work day? Not many.

I'd love to see more computer mice designed to eliminate the need to keep the palms down during use. I'm only aware of a few, and they simply aren't promoted well. :?

I have found a cheap Microsoft optical wireless mouse that is reasonably ergonomic and feels pretty good when I'm using it. 8) It cost me about $30 at Best Buy. A single AA battery will power it for several months. Best of all, I can connect it to any computer equipped with a USB port. With multiple computers in my life, its great to have that adaptability.... now if only I could use it at work... :x

[Coach Gostnell]

I was recently provided with a new desktop and new mouse, and the new mouse is ridiculously non-ergonomic.



I have found a cheap Microsoft optical wireless mouse that is reasonably ergonomic and feels pretty good when I'm using it.... now if only I could use it at work...

Have the same problem, Jason, because I also have to use "government issue" at work. It came to me in the night: You can't change out your mouse, but you can change your mouse PAD!

So this morning, I got up & jury rigged a mouse pad on an outward inclined plane, using a wedge shaped piece of plastic & a large CD cover. The mouse is level with the top of the pad & works all right, esp. considering my funky "construction", but the forearm & wrist are at a much more natural angle.

I call it...TA DA! The Wrist Rock-It
:!: :!:

Seems to me it would be easy enough to glue a mouse pad to a piece of dense foam or even a wedge of wood, w/ felt or something on the bottom to (another mouse pad?) to keep it from sliding on the desktop, & take it in to use at work. Might need some tinkering around to get the best angle but I'm going to try this for a while & see if it makes any difference.

[JasonE]

:idea: :idea: :idea: Nice idea! I may cut a piece of stiff foam and tuck it under my mouse pad to see how that works.

[Coach Tran]

Matt,

Can you please give me an update on your experience with DMSO?

Yours in CST,

[Coach Tran]

I am trying DMSO on my right shoulder and my right elbow... I have years of repetitive strains of linear strength condition and wing chun training. CST has really transformed my limitations, but I thought maybe this can help. I will keep you updated. In the last three days, I have not noticed any changes yet.