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humilispuer
11-11-2003, 11:22 PM
Not sure how many of you have already read this article. Figured I would post it as I found it extremely interesting.

http://www.dfhi.com/interviews/rosedale.html

-Humilis

11-12-2003, 04:06 AM
Hemi,

Awesome article. A must read. Better then most books on the subject.

Thanks

Bill

humilispuer
11-12-2003, 10:02 AM
Bill

No problem. I am glad you enjoyed the article. When I come across something with so much "substance," I feel compelled to share it with others :) Hopefully other members of the community will take some time to sit down and read it.

-Humilis

MalB
11-12-2003, 01:03 PM
Thanks for sharing.
Answered some lingering questions for me!
:?

aaron
11-12-2003, 04:34 PM
I thought this article was interesting but it is too one sided to provide a ton of insight on the subject. He attributed EVERYTHING to insulin resistance and that is, when it all boils down, only one factor in the risk factors for heart disease, cancer, etc. Not to mention the data was not supported with references to many medical trials and the whole format seemed somewhat jumbled and incoherent at times.

The two things I took from this article were: one, insulin resistance is no good and a low carbohydrate diet can help increase insulin sensitivity. Two, insulin affects a lot more functions in the body than I ever knew.

A question I was left with after reading. If I eat a carbohydrate that is pure fiber is it considered a carbohydrate? I guess this reverts back to the "active" carbs people talk about. For example, metamucil has 5g of carbs per serving, with 3g being dietary fiber and 2 being soluble fiber. Does metamucil count towards carbohydrate ingestion? Thanks for any answers in advance and thanks for the article humi.

humilispuer
11-12-2003, 08:41 PM
Mal - No problem. Great to hear the article was of use to you.

Aaron - The problem with posting referances is that you can take a study and bend it in any which direction so that it suits your needs (This is not to justify the lack of referances, rather, to state that just because referances are present; this does not make an article any more scientific perse). Many people post referances with only half truths and the only way you will ever find that out is if you actually check in to them and most people will not. Hell, most people do not know the lingo well enough to even read through any of the referances.

You took some pretty solid information away from the article - that's all that matters.

As far as fiber goes - it depends on the dietary regimen you follow. On NHE, fiber does not count toward your carb count. However, on the Anabolic Diet, Dr. Pasquale never makes a distinction between fiber and non fiber carbs. Personally, I would not count the carbs - that's just me though.

-Humilis

aaron
11-12-2003, 09:12 PM
True, references can be bent out of whack but without solid references how is one to be sure that the information one is spouting has any validity at all. That was the point I was trying to make.

One more quick question about anabolic you might be able to answer that is not in the T-Mag article.

Can I start the carb load t night for dinner, and if so just carb load for 48 hours from the time I start the carb load?

I can't tell if ending a day with a carb load would counter affects because high fat/protein had already been ingested in the previous hours of the day. Thanks again.

humilispuer
11-12-2003, 11:07 PM
Aaron, I think your plan would work fine. You're gonna have to tweak things with this diet. After this carb up, as you know, you will gain a crap load of water weight. You should, however, drop that about 2-3 days in to the down cycle. At that point, examine your physique. If you have lost definition and or do not look different at all from that point the week before - you either need to eat less during your carb up or shorten the duration. If you keep my posted on your progress, I will do my best to help you out in any way I can.

-Humilis

aaron
11-13-2003, 10:35 AM
http://t-mag.com/nation_articles/286sns.jsp

Good round table discussion that gives mention to the insulin subject. A slightly different view. Check it out.

humilispuer
11-13-2003, 11:52 AM
Aaron, thanks for the link. I have already read the article though :wink:

Doug Szolek
11-13-2003, 02:07 PM
Not sure how many of you have already read this article. Figured I would post it as I found it extremely interesting.

http://www.dfhi.com/interviews/rosedale.html

-Humilis

Really enjoyed that article Humilis. Well worth the time.

humilispuer
11-13-2003, 06:16 PM
No problem Coach! Glad to hear you enjoyed it :)

-Humilis