IOUF Hyperfunction vs Resistant Opponent

[JasonE]

When people are resistant, they tend to tense up, particularly in the shoulder girdle. In a recent jacket wrestling session, I found it difficult to induce hyperfunction of the shoulder when working to set up throws.

I was not focusing on any particular throw, but I was looking to manipulate his body in ways that would create throws. I realize this is a broader form of target fixation, but I'm working on it. :wink:

Assuming I can't just ball up a fist and use it to distract the guy, what other suggestions do you have for developing the use of Hyperfunction? Paul and I will be reviewing the IOUF tapes, but we're also interested in what others have discovered in their own explorations.

[Ryan Murdock]

Jason,

I'd suggest working with the stuff at the end of the Softwork DVD called Grappling. We found this to be a sophistication of the concepts presented in IOUF, very simple and intuitive. I'd work it Softwork style at first, gradually ramping up to Hardwork, especially the stuff where your partner puts in tension in the form of a stance or resistance. We've generally found it to be extremely easy to get hyperfunctions here.

Of course, I found it much more difficult if your partner is "jelly", non-resisting as a form of resistance so to speak. The goal of releasing residual tension. When we are both fighting this way, its pretty difficult to get anything on each other.

When people are resistant, they tend to tense up, particularly in the shoulder girdle. In a recent jacket wrestling session, I found it difficult to induce hyperfunction of the shoulder when working to set up throws.

I was not focusing on any particular throw, but I was looking to manipulate his body in ways that would create throws. I realize this is a broader form of target fixation, but I'm working on it. :wink:

Assuming I can't just ball up a fist and use it to distract the guy, what other suggestions do you have for developing the use of Hyperfunction? Paul and I will be reviewing the IOUF tapes, but we're also interested in what others have discovered in their own explorations.

Excellent post Ryan,

Remember hyperfunction is only one way to achieve an outcome, i find on occassion, pushing and pulling to give my opponent the feeling of false density useful, to allow me to then capitilise on his movement.

If i reach a point where i feel a lot of strenght and density, and i feel i cant induce hyperfunction, then its simple a case of moving on, finding the chinks in chain. I also use some of the leg fencing work whilst attached to shock my opponent and test his level of fear reactivity.

I also think, softwork, softwork, softwork, lol: is one of the best ways of examing the structure, and how to go about breaking structure. I think Integrating Structure is one hell of a DVD and is an invaluable resource to everyone.

Andrew.

[Dan Chomycia]

When people are resistant, they tend to tense up, particularly in the shoulder girdle. In a recent jacket wrestling session, I found it difficult to induce hyperfunction of the shoulder when working to set up throws.

Jason,

This is an awesome question and one that undoubtedly help to create Softwork.
Coach Sonnon must have asked himself the same question in his research.
So speaking in terms of Softwork you are trying to create plasticity out of density which is like trying to make a rock become water. Boy if I had a nickel for everytime I tried to do that in the old days! :oops:

Now I'm so used to moving around density that I can't even arm wrestle(Density on Density) properly my body says move around the arm instead of through it. LOL

If Hyper-function is something that you must do then you'll want to find the plasticity to begin your work on hyperfunction.

Also do not try to set up throws just move around the density and allow the throws to happen.

If we were to take the hyperfunction model and overlay his density you might look at what is not covered and begin working there to use the hyper-function strategy.

Another possible strategy is to move around his density and use it as a lever like we did in Softwork.

An awesome post Dan! :D

A.

[Scott Sonnon]

Jason,

In PA at a cafe. Limited time. Listen, you've received great advice. Just remember this, and let this guide your exploration - when "tensed up" someone is always moving in a specific direction, even if not in motion. You just need to work the Continuum enough in order to become aware of that potential action to unlock it kinetically. If you're facing only fully uncooperative, resistant opponents (polarized Hardwork) it will take much longer to learn, but it's possible.

[Dan Chomycia]

Oh yeah I knew I was missing a strategy in there somewhere. :oops: That reminds me I need to throw this into the curriculum for the Security For Life Program. I keep getting caught up with the Softwork model only to find out my students need to know about some of the earlier models as well.

Picture me in Class saying "What do you mean your not ready for the 20 man tensegrity drill!?" :lol:

[Vbrown]

Jason,

from my limited experience playing with these ideas, I've occasionally met those who go rigid. What I find is that they become the stereotype we all learned in our first martial arts class. The opponent is a wooden man (Which Coach points out is not reality).

What I've found to work for me is to then move them around like a sheet of plywood stood up on edge. Use their tension and accentuate it to get them to tilt into unconfortable places. They then go plastics to right themselves and I then facilitate whatever joint they move first.

which, upon reflection, is probably just restating what others have just said. oh well.

Vince

[JasonE]

I appreciate all the suggestions and the verbal reframing of concepts in application. Hearing/reading other perspectives is very helpful. I've got about 14 years of training to reprogram.

[cht]

hi jason :D ,

from my experience, when someone had a tensed up shoulder girdle or even the shoulder area, they also tend to have tensed up muscle around the back area near their spine.

instead of hyperfunction, you might want to 'play' with the 'tension chain' provided until you could manipulate his spine. perhaps this is what is meant by the 'wooden man' analogy. If u succeed in this, you can manipulate him anywhere u want.

Also i tend to look for areas where there's no more 'zeroing out' and plasticity of some nature will materialized elsewehere (usually not at the tension chain) and that will be your setup for more options.

if hyperfunction fixation doesn't seem to work for u, the easy wait out is through 'sinew rotation' or 'leverage' it from some other parts.

Hope i'm making some sense here. still getting in terms of rmax terminology though ...

Cheers 8)