J.H. Myers Jr.
11-17-2005, 08:00 AM
Wednesday Night, I had to some time to think over a few of the events on Monday nights session. Also got some good advice from Tom Furman in the last thread, so I decided to put it all together and see what changes I could effect a day later.
For this second session, I brought in my training partner and good friend Chris, we also run the Summit Center School together. Chris is old boxer and full contact fighter, trained by New Yorks five time golden gloves winner, so that on top of years of training has made him a great MA guy. He also trained at Scotts open to anyone Iron Curtain school years back.
I was first up, so we went right to it. I have a habit of starting out easy, just a bad habit from trying to help my students learn to fight by letting them try something in a safe and learning environment. That had no place here, Scott used a straight in attack, but no legs. This time, the move for the throw was averted, I moved around it. When I came back at him, I walked right into a hip throw, which was pretty damn funny. Got up, kept going, I was also leaning my head away from punches this evening, never a good habit. I was fresh for these first few rounds, no sparring before hand, so I had a lot more energy. Scott noticed it at once and commented on the difference. By the end of that first two minutes, I had ramped up to nearly full speed and power, just pulling the juice on the strikes at the moment of impact. I know I hit Scott square in the face at least twice, only pulling at the last moment.
Next up was Chris, and he had his chin down. He and Scott traded shots and circled. His kicking methods are different from mine, and the sudden change in personal style certainly showed Scott some valuable openings in his own style he'll want to cover up. Chris is not easy or fun to step in on, the more you hit him, the better to him, but Scott did, repeatedly. The ward offs and counters and evasion were all very solid and well done. Getting to be an observer firmed up my opinions of our last exchange. Scott is fast, can get in close, hang there, and trade punches. I figured he'd pay hell to close on Chris, or maybe not even do so often. He was able to every time. Closing is a skill Scott is expert at, there is no denying it. Once in, he can trade punches.
So without revealing too much of Scotts style since the fight is near, I went into our next bout anticipating what I figured was his common game in the ring. Got some advice on the lean out, and put my head down more. This time I kept it there. It was a pretty common exchange of kicks and punches, my change up right leg hit a solid strike to the midsection. Scott to his credit, got several hooks in, I rolled em out, but I still felt them.
In a later bout, Chris used a fade away side kick very effectively and it was such a good move we reviewed how Scott could do this and use it as well. The exchange and learning was brief and we kept the energy high.
Together, we worked one min rounds with about 30 secs rest or more, and that gave Scott a total of about 12 or maybe 14 one minute rounds, 6 or 7 apiece with myself and Chris. It was nice to have some rest time.
We gave Scott some pointers on kicking and integrating hands and feet. As the goal is to help Scott get as ready as possible. He integrated these immediately, along with a tweek of his kicking style I pointed out and the change was immediate. I fought two subsequent rounds more conservatively, feeding out kicks and punches, evading attack. Scott got a few solid leg strikes in which later led to more feed back on how such things should be integrated to best effect and to set up other attacks.
After we were done, we had a great discussion on what does and does not work in MA. You train trad, and you do a pile of moves and have endless ideas, but you step up to go full - you fall back on such basic moves and combos you often wonder how anything else was ever thought of. The basic moves serve best and keep you safe.
We showed Scott some of our favorite combos and why they work. We discussed what his opponents are likely to do, how to counter or do the same and all in all it was a great learning experience for all.
We'll possibly do one more session this week. So many ideas came up that they ought to be worked on.
A day later my back is strained pretty damn badly, not sure when that happened, but it has limited my movement, just nags a bit. Naproxen is your friend.
Jack
For this second session, I brought in my training partner and good friend Chris, we also run the Summit Center School together. Chris is old boxer and full contact fighter, trained by New Yorks five time golden gloves winner, so that on top of years of training has made him a great MA guy. He also trained at Scotts open to anyone Iron Curtain school years back.
I was first up, so we went right to it. I have a habit of starting out easy, just a bad habit from trying to help my students learn to fight by letting them try something in a safe and learning environment. That had no place here, Scott used a straight in attack, but no legs. This time, the move for the throw was averted, I moved around it. When I came back at him, I walked right into a hip throw, which was pretty damn funny. Got up, kept going, I was also leaning my head away from punches this evening, never a good habit. I was fresh for these first few rounds, no sparring before hand, so I had a lot more energy. Scott noticed it at once and commented on the difference. By the end of that first two minutes, I had ramped up to nearly full speed and power, just pulling the juice on the strikes at the moment of impact. I know I hit Scott square in the face at least twice, only pulling at the last moment.
Next up was Chris, and he had his chin down. He and Scott traded shots and circled. His kicking methods are different from mine, and the sudden change in personal style certainly showed Scott some valuable openings in his own style he'll want to cover up. Chris is not easy or fun to step in on, the more you hit him, the better to him, but Scott did, repeatedly. The ward offs and counters and evasion were all very solid and well done. Getting to be an observer firmed up my opinions of our last exchange. Scott is fast, can get in close, hang there, and trade punches. I figured he'd pay hell to close on Chris, or maybe not even do so often. He was able to every time. Closing is a skill Scott is expert at, there is no denying it. Once in, he can trade punches.
So without revealing too much of Scotts style since the fight is near, I went into our next bout anticipating what I figured was his common game in the ring. Got some advice on the lean out, and put my head down more. This time I kept it there. It was a pretty common exchange of kicks and punches, my change up right leg hit a solid strike to the midsection. Scott to his credit, got several hooks in, I rolled em out, but I still felt them.
In a later bout, Chris used a fade away side kick very effectively and it was such a good move we reviewed how Scott could do this and use it as well. The exchange and learning was brief and we kept the energy high.
Together, we worked one min rounds with about 30 secs rest or more, and that gave Scott a total of about 12 or maybe 14 one minute rounds, 6 or 7 apiece with myself and Chris. It was nice to have some rest time.
We gave Scott some pointers on kicking and integrating hands and feet. As the goal is to help Scott get as ready as possible. He integrated these immediately, along with a tweek of his kicking style I pointed out and the change was immediate. I fought two subsequent rounds more conservatively, feeding out kicks and punches, evading attack. Scott got a few solid leg strikes in which later led to more feed back on how such things should be integrated to best effect and to set up other attacks.
After we were done, we had a great discussion on what does and does not work in MA. You train trad, and you do a pile of moves and have endless ideas, but you step up to go full - you fall back on such basic moves and combos you often wonder how anything else was ever thought of. The basic moves serve best and keep you safe.
We showed Scott some of our favorite combos and why they work. We discussed what his opponents are likely to do, how to counter or do the same and all in all it was a great learning experience for all.
We'll possibly do one more session this week. So many ideas came up that they ought to be worked on.
A day later my back is strained pretty damn badly, not sure when that happened, but it has limited my movement, just nags a bit. Naproxen is your friend.
Jack