The Warrior Diet

[BullOnTheBeach]

The Warrior Diet. I got this book about 2-3months ago and was horriblly skeptic about the premise. The book is written by Ori Hofmekler. The basis of the book is more historical then it is sciencetific. Hofmekler reseached the diet of Roman and Spartant soliders. The diet is simplistic and on paper looks like self-starvation. There is a little bit of sciencetific fact that does come into play with this diet. During the "fasting" (this term is used loosely) through the day, the body builds up needed enzymes and works on detoxing the body. As to what degree this is accomplished I am not sure.

I went out on a limb and gave it a shot. I have been following it for 8 weeks now. In combonation with a great training regiment, this diet has allowed me to drop from 235lbs at 28%BF to 219lbs at 22%BF. I have also gained in strength, gradually, over this time frame as well.

I personally follow this diet 6 days a week, allowing myself 1 day (Sunday) to cheat if I want to. Hofmekler mentions that you do not need to follow this diet to any degree of serverity. He recomends that you try it a couple of days a week to get the premise. If its not for you, thanks for trying and move on. Though, I must say for myself, I have nothing but praise for something that is so unconventional yet has great applications.

To save Ori from losing too much in royalties for the book I don't want to go into the specifics of the diet. You can check it out at the following websites. I hope that this will gain enough curiousity in some of you that you may purchase the book. Its a quick read with little sciencetific babble that some diet books contain.

Take Care, Stay Well, and Live Wise.
Travis M. Gordon

www.warriordiet.com
www.dragondoor.com

[JohnDWilson]

I read the "Warrior Diet" some time ago. While Ori may be on to something I was disapointed with his historical inaccuracies.

He maintains that the Roman Legions ate his diet. This is historically untenable. But then, Ori also claims to have been a "Navy SEAL" which is also historically untenable.

The Roman soldier could (and would) cover in excess of 25 miles per day (a marathon every day!!). His primary food was 1 kilo of hardtack per day.

Ori's comment on this is that the average soldier threw the hardtack away!

Yeh, right. (There is no footnote or other reference to support Ori's opinion)

The Roman "Warrior" was not a body builder. If anything, he was an endurance athlete by today's standards. The marching pace was quite brisk - about 5 mph.

As a side note, our word "mile" comes from mille for a thousand. A thousand Roman legion paces equal a "mile". A "pace" is two steps.

A mile is 5280 feet. That's about 5 feet 3 inches per pace (two steps).

It's hard to imagine eating two pounds of bread every day.

But then, it's also hard to imagine eating several large stacks of pancakes with lot's of syrup every morning - but Lance Armstrong and his fellow competetors do that and more every morning of the Tour d'France.

The "Tour" racers consume about 7000 calories per day - and lose weight over the course of the race.

It is not demonstrable that the Roman soldier threw away his daily ration of carbs and pigged out every nite.

Nor is it demonstrable that a tri-athelete, adventure racer, long distance bicycle racer, cross country skier, etc. could perform daily on the "Warrior Diet"

That being said, If your life situation involves a day desk job with an afterwork workout of about 1 hour (as suggested in Ori's book), then the "Warrior Diet" may be for you.

[Cam]

I have six or so months experience with the warrior diet and am convinced that I will never eat another way. I agree that the historical data is pretty weak. The basic philosophy of the book, however, has been my key to creating a healthy relationship with food.

Ori's premise is that modern man has lost his natural instinct to eat correctly. He outlines the way to re-train one's nutritional intuition.

I do not follow Ori's recommendations strictly, but his basic philosophy helped me to rediscover true satisfaction and the freedom to eat intuitively. I also continue to get leaner and leaner despite eating to complete satisfaction every evening.

In addition, I believe that this unconventional approch based on personal instinct closely parallels the training philosophies outlined in CST.

Based on the experience of 30 or so people who have posted here and at DD the consensus seems to be a few stick with it 100% and love it, maybe more impressively almost everybody continues to eat less during the day then they did before - me included.

Ori has subsequently posted that adding a couple 15gram protein shots is a good idea for the hard training athlete. When your in the "plenty of weight to lose" phase you may not need to.

[Cam]

Bill,

To your recollection, did folks continue to eat less and less over the course of their experience with the diet?

I am to a point at which I eat little or nothing during the day. This seems to be what my body wants & needs.

Cameron

No.

I think everybody kind of found there balance depending on how they felt, and what they did during the day. I basically replaced breakfast and lunch with much smaller " snacks" or protein drinks.

[Chuck Sproule]

Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum but have taken the CST exams and Gamma Cadre course. I am also Ori Hofmekler's right hand man and partner in the Warrior diet.

I would be happy to offer any guidance to fellow CST brothers and sisters for further clarification of the facts rather than rumour and heresay.

You can contact me anytime at chuck@warriordiet.com

[Connie Brown]

I would be happy to offer any guidance to fellow CST brothers and sisters for further clarification of the facts rather than rumour and heresay.

Most excellent! thanks for the offer!

[Lee Hadden]

To dismiss any, and all doubt and confusion about the Warrior Diet, please take the opportunity to contact Coach Chuck Sproule CST, Ori Hofmekler's business partner.

Coach Sproule's guidence has allowed me to achieve superior leanness & conditioning than ever before in such a dramatically brief period.

He is a nutritional master in his own right.

Coach Lee Hadden CST

[Chuck Sproule]

Thanks Lee, anything for you brother!

I hope I can help end the myriad of confusion that exists in
this ever developing field.

Coach Lee Hadden RKC,CST will be the finest of examples to learn from as he is very disciplined and open to suggestions. He has already experienced some significant gains in only one week of a special revision of the Warrior Diet.

Congratulations Lee. Keep up the good work!

Coach Chuck Sproule CST

[humilispuer]

Coach Chuck...

Do you have an e-mail address I can get a hold of you at?

-Jonathon

Chuck

Be careful - Jon's got what they call "an inquireing mind" 8)

Jon - I just got off the phone with the man himself and your question will be adressed. Lot's of other very interesting ideas too. Ori's the real deal.

Bill

[Chuck Sproule]

Thanks for the "heads up" Bill!

Nice talking with you yesterday as well.

Jon, my e-mail is chuck@warriordiet.com.

As Bill said, he is putting together a great interview with Ori and to a smaller extent, myself, and there will be a lot of great questions answered. Once that comes out and if you still need any clarification, please contact me anytime. I'm just trying to be efficient here for everyone so we don't answer the same questions over and over.

But, if you need help woith something...my door is open.

Sincerely,

Chuck Sproule CST

[humilispuer]

Chuck,
You should probably listen to Bill - I can be a flat out pain in the ass at times :P

Bill,
Can't wait to hear wait Ori and Chuck have to say. I really appreciate you adding my questions into the mix.

-Jonathon