Decisions, decisions, decisions

[kevinJ]

Hello all,

I am currently using homemade clubs that weigh about 15 lbs. I want to buy a pair of Clubbells but dont have the money to continue to upgrade.
What I would like to know is if I buy the 25 lb. Clubbells and use the choke up would I be ok.

[bob_stra]

You can make a good guesstimate by applying the ideas contained here

http://www.rmax.tv/articles/m556.html

eg: My home made clubs are 25 inches long and 5lbs each.

25 x 5 = 125 units (I forget what torque is measured in - been a while since highschool. Moments?)

I can get the same effect (125 units) by swinging 25 pound clubs with a 5 inch arm (REALLY choking up), or a 125 inch arm on 1lb unit.

25*5 = 125 (really abusing the 'choking up' idea)
25*10 = 250
25*20 = 500
25*25 = 625 (full length)

*assuming I understand the levarge concept correctly.

Don't go too heavy. The is a huge difference between 15s and 20s, let alone 25s. I still am weak doing mills with 20s , although I can swipe 25s.

When you choke up alot, you lose a lot of the "swing".

You haven't said how your using them or if you use anything else -but don't go too heavy.

[J.H. Myers Jr.]

My advice, is throw out any and all handmade implements - they are not CBs - and stick with using only the real deal RMax CB for your own safety.

I also recommend you eventually own 10, 15, 20's for the simple reason that depending on tempo, level of exertion, time, and your level of various injury and exhaustion during a week you may really appreiciate being able to drop down or go up in a given workout with poundages.

10's are good for learning and getting your TECHNICAL groove on. Also good for the concept of Micro-Periodization (Light Day- High Intensity)

15's are a challenge by rep 8 for nearly anyone except maybe Doug and Brandon. So thats two out of 250 Million Americans.

20s Unless you are very powerful in many ways, you will only do power moves with this one for a very long time. There are at least 30 basic GPP in the book - if you can do all with a 20lb'r, you are strongbad!

25's I'd like to see a count of who here can actually do every single exercise in the GPP (the book and video) with this one at this moment. Not me, not yet.... but I'm addmittedly not the strongest guy here either.

Invest in the 10's - your desire to GET BETTER will make you save your pennies for the 15 and it will be money well spent. Stay practical and think the Whole GPP when you purchase, then think Combo training and then think 300 Yard Death Marches. You want to really be able to use a given club. Variety helps.

Also, Bill makes a good point, choking up kills the GRACE of Clubbell use. It's ok in the beginning, but full use is the goal.

Jack.

[Chuck]

Jack,
Reading your post has made me wonder whether I made a mistake when I asked my wife to get me my first CB's for Christmas; a pair of 15's. It sounds like I may have to ante up for a pair of 10's too. I well, I guess I'll know soon enough.
Chuck

[kevinJ]

Thank you for the responses. I had decided to go for the twenties after talking to Chris Rubio but I guess I will stick with the fifteens for now.

Kevin