help with knee pain

[flex]

I have a lot of knee pain in my left knee and a little less in the right one I have been doing the beginner warrior wellness for the knee, leg and ankle plus the beginner 4cbd .My range of motion in the knee in getting better but the pain is not.It's only been 4 days but do you think I should be doind any other exercise alone with the warrior wellness.

[shadow]

based on personal experience, as i don't know your details nor am i qualified to give you any advice....

i suffered from chronic knee pain in my left knee for several years. intu-flow (warrior wellness) for the past 6 months or so combine with flowfit has pretty much alleviated the problem.
what i actually found was that the pain in the knee was caused by two things: tightness in the hips, and several weak muscles in the leg area. the trinity squat in flowfit built up the leg muscles as well as the rest of the program serving to release the hips and intu-flow for the whole body has taken care of the rest.

so i would consider definately adding the pelvic lumbar (hip circles) into your routines if you aren't doing it..... and thats about all the advice i can give.

but know that dedicated work and really trying to understand the problem so you can deal with it is what will alleviate that pain.

[stPatrick]

Sean,

Can't offer any specific advice, but a general guide is if your RPD(Rate of Perceived Discomfort) is anywhere over a 6 (if I remember correctly) on a 1-10 scale with 10 being the most painful thing you ever experienced then you should probably back off working the knees. You may want to work the hips and ankles and just leave the knees alone. I'd also suggest checking with your doctor to make sure there isn't something more serious going on. The CST coachs and instructors can probably offer you more complete and better advice.

Advice heirachy:
1. Yourself
2. Your Doctor
3. CST Coaches and Instructors
4. The rest of us schlebs

Good luck

[Scott Sonnon]

If you're RPD is a 6+, consult your physician immediately.

I'd reverse 1 & 2, in the advice hierarchy, because self-diagnosis is problematic.

Most people think that because we're healthy and fit that we will be spending less time with a physician. That is only true from a pathology perspective: that visiting the doc is only to heal an issue retroactively. I spend more time with my health care team because 90% of my health care is proactive.

Get that knee checked out first!

[stPatrick]

Coach Sonnon,

I'd debated the order, given that I and quite a few people I know have had experience with doctors who were more inclined to pigeon-hole a person into a standard treatment without really trying to figure out if it was appropriate to the individual patient. "You have a sprained ankle? Let's schedule your for knee joint replacement surgery." You do have a point though. Perhaps a better way to say it would be:

1. Yourself(well informed) in conjunction with a good (holistically minded) medical team
2. CST Coaches and Instructors
3. Fellow Tribe members

Mostly I was just looking to emphasis that any advice I give should be taken with a grain (more like a 1/2 lb.) of salt. And possibly a nice single malt whiskey to wash it down. Oh, wait, we're supposed to be healthy, make that a fruit juice. :P

[Scott Sonnon]

Patrick. I agree 100%. :D Except about the whiskey. :wink:


Coach Sonnon,

I'd debated the order, given that I and quite a few people I know have had experience with doctors who were more inclined to pigeon-hole a person into a standard treatment without really trying to figure out if it was appropriate to the individual patient. "You have a sprained ankle? Let's schedule your for knee joint replacement surgery." You do have a point though. Perhaps a better way to say it would be:

1. Yourself(well informed) in conjunction with a good (holistically minded) medical team
2. CST Coaches and Instructors
3. Fellow Tribe members

Mostly I was just looking to emphasis that any advice I give should be taken with a grain (more like a 1/2 lb.) of salt. And possibly a nice single malt whiskey to wash it down. Oh, wait, we're supposed to be healthy, make that a fruit juice. :P

[flex]

I did see the doctor and as far as he can tell they are fine.He thinks the pain my be from my flat feet.I stand on then 8 hours each day at work.I think I just have a lot of little things wrong that all add up to the pain.any advise for flat feet etc.Thanks

[Scott Sonnon]

Sean,

When you introduced yourself, you stated that you are a practicing and performing contortionist: http://www.circularstrengthmag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=26329&highlight=#26329

You stated that you practice about an hour a day: http://www.circularstrengthmag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=26330&highlight=#26330

You stated that this is very difficult and painful for your knees: http://www.circularstrengthmag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=26385&highlight=#26385

Here you stated that you have reviewed the reports of doctors who clearly state the health dangers of contortionism, and we agreed with those findings: http://www.circularstrengthmag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10394

Have you considered that the cause of your pain is not the absence of a particular modality, but the presence of the above one? Contortionism is more than likely problematic for the health of your knees, in part or in whole.

[flex]

I did stop the above stuff about 1year ago.I was looking at going back to it again but you guys stoped me.Who knows what shape my knees would be in If I started up again

[flex]

I tried resting the knee and did the hip warrior wellness and funny thing the knees are a little bit better but my left shoulder blade herts.Could there be something in the upper body or a chain of tension
that is causeing the pain in my knees.Thanks

[shadow]

yeah keep those hips moving hehe... (although i think the real benefit would come from doing the whole warrior wellness routine as our whole body is interlinked, there is no isolation.... as one of the intu-flow pricinples states about compensation "we are not built like a brick house, more like a high tension wire system for a sailboat. an analogy is if we snag a sweater, a thread somewhere else will get tight" i.e. site is not always/often the source).

another thing that worked for me was to start going barefoot as much as possible or wearing only shoes with a flat sole.

this i think has made more of a difference overall than i give credit to.

i know now if i wear shoes with any kind of raised heel (as the majority of shoes out there have... it's not only women who wear high heels!!) then within about an hour the pain in my knee begins to flare up again and creeps up my legs to my hips also.

shoes are bad... mmmmkay.