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    Obesity as a life-style?

    I find this patently frightening. Let's be thankful we in this community are from a distinctly different mind-set.

    Taken from the news site "The Raw Story"

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    As adult obesity balloons in the United States, being overweight has become less of a health hazard and more of a lifestyle choice, the author of a new book argues.

    "Obesity is a natural extension of an advancing economy. As you become a First World economy and you get all these labor-saving devices and low-cost, easily accessible foods, people are going to eat more and exercise less," health economist Eric Finkelstein told AFP.

    In "The Fattening of America", published this month, Finkelstein says that adult obesity more than doubled in the United States between 1960 and 2004, rising from 13 percent to around 33 percent.

    Globally, only Saudi Arabia fares worse than the United States in terms of the percentage of adults with a severe weight problem -- 35 percent of people in the oil-rich desert kingdom are classified as obese, the book says, citing data from the World Health Organization and Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

    With the rising tide of obesity come health problems and an increased burden on the healthcare system and industry.

    "But the nasty side-effects of obesity aren't as nasty as they used to be," Finkelstein said.

    "When you have a first-rate medical system that can cure the diseases that obesity promotes, you no longer need to worry so much about being obese," he told AFP.

    "With our ever-advancing modern medicine there helping to save the day (at least for many people), are government and the media blowing the magnitude of the 'obesity crisis' out of proportion?" his book says.

    A study in which Finkelstein and colleagues at the RTI International, an independent research institute in North Carolina that works on social and scientific problems, asked overweight, obese and normal weight people to predict their life expectancy came up with a total difference of four years.

    Normal weight respondents predicted they would live to 78, the obese to 74, and the overweight 75.5.

    Other studies that looked at death data back the conclusion that people who carry excess weight tend to die slightly earlier, the book says, and draws the conclusion that "many individuals are making a conscious decision to engage in a lifestyle that is obesity-promoting."

    "People make choices, and some people will choose a weight that the public health community might be unhappy about. Why should we try to make them thinner?" Finkelstein said.

    Linda Gotthelf, a doctor who heads research at Health Management Resources, a private, nationwide firm that specializes in weight loss and management, agreed that Americans now live longer but stressed that quality of life declines with age.

    "People are living longer but with more chronic diseases," Gotthelf told AFP.

    "That brings a diminished quality of life, especially for the obese who have more functional limitations as they age and tend to be on multiple medications."

    Obesity is not a choice for Alley English, a 28-year-old mother from Missouri who has struggled with a weight problem all her life.

    "If you knew that you could be what society considers normal, why would you not choose to do that?" English told AFP.

    "As we get older, life does get more rushed and we do tend to make the easier choices sometimes," English, who currently weighs 392 pounds (178 kilograms), told AFP.

    "But you can't say if you quit going to the drive-through, exercise more and eat more vegetables, you'll lose weight. There are so many more factors involved."

    Gotthelf also disagreed that people choose to be obese.

    "There are studies in which people have said they would rather lose a limb or be blind than obese. Being obese is not a desire," she said.

    "For many, this is a problem they have struggled with for many years... it gets discouraging after a while," she said.

    "I would not doubt that if you asked obese people if they could push a button and not be obese, close to 100 percent would say they would push the button."

    Finkelstein says he wrote "The Fattening of America" to "encourage discussion of what I understand is probably an uncomfortable position for a lot of people."

    Even if private industry and government take steps to protect society against the costs of obesity, many Americans "will likely continue to choose a diet and exercise regimen that leads to excess weight," because losing weight requires too many lifestyle sacrifices, his book warns.

    Meanwhile, frustrated by years of unsuccessful dieting and weight loss programs, English has opted to join a growing number of Americans who have gastric bypass surgery -- hailed in Finkelstein's book as "the best-known treatment for severe obesity."

    "I have a higher risk of developing diabetes or hypertension if I don't have the surgery," English said.

    "I don't care if I end up with a body like whoever-in-the-media thinks I should look like; I just want to be healthy and able to participate in my daughter's life," she said.
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    I don't know what's worse, the article or the fact that I'm not surprised.

    Our society looks to "technology" to fix them. From gastric bypass, lypo suction and the like, to the plethora of drugs (from your doctor) to take care of all of our problems.

    As with most things in life, the road to health is not downhill. I cannot even imagine how discouraging it would be to be hundreds of pounds overweight, but we each deal with our own discouragements one step at a time. Everyone has their own road to travel, but we don't have to do it alone.

    I hope that all of us here will accept, with enthusiasm, the responsibility to be an encourager to each other and others. The high road may not be easy, but it is also not impossible.
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    I've read a few similar stories over the past year, espousing that American culture is more and more accepting of obesity as normal. These writings certainly aren't helping the problem.

    For the most part, I am unsympathetic towards people whom have allowed their weight to skyrocket above healthy levels. Encouragement is my theme - while most people will not receive an ounce of sympathy from me, they will find an abundance of encouragement. I'll always be there to tell them that there's hope, that they can make changes starting today, that they are not slaves to weight problems.

    The fact that obesity is so common in today's culture somewhat discounts the fact that it is still a very sensitive subject to each person. Nobody seems to talk about how much of an emotional battle obesity is. One of the last thoughts in the article catches my eye when the author proposes a magic button that would cure obesity, he thinks that almost 100% would push the button. There is so much to be said about that one idea which sums up how so many people feel. If it were only as easy as pushing a button, like restarting our computer or setting the microwave. Unfortunately, the body doesn't change with technology advances.
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    "But you can't say if you quit going to the drive-through, exercise more and eat more vegetables, you'll lose weight. There are so many more factors involved."
    In other words, don't even try, just go for the surgical solution.

    What I've noticed about the two people I've seen who had the surgery is that they did lose weight, look less healthy than when they were heavier, and now eat smaller portions of their pre-surgical diet of junk food.

    Our perception is being skewed daily - I notice that everything from wheelchairs to what used to be size-Large tee shirts are so much bigger than 10 or 15 years ago, that what used to be normal now seems undersized. Bigger stuff means more material went into it; on top of it all, obesity isn't "green".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeanne
    Our perception is being skewed daily - I notice that everything from wheelchairs to what used to be size-Large tee shirts are so much bigger than 10 or 15 years ago, that what used to be normal now seems undersized.
    No wonder the large t-shirts I buy seem too big.

    Remember when the "Thirty-two Ouncer" was huge!
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    I have a question for those of you talking about "those people," the obese.

    When you think of your own friends and family who are obese, do you think they have the author's idea of it being a "lifestyle choice"?

    Cody, it seems like he is only SAYING what the trends say > 30% of Americans are already DOING. Why is this frightening - or do you already walk around frightened. Just curious bro!

    Do you think the market for trainers will dry up? I'm not sure that follows. The obese might still want good training.

    Quote Originally Posted by jeanne
    In other words, don't even try, just go for the surgical solution.
    Jeanne, he was talking about extreme obesity, and it's the treatment of choice, hands down, for that situation. If one seeks help from a regular MD one will be barreled down that road.
    Last edited by Connie Brown; 01-11-2008 at 01:38 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connie Brown
    Jeanne, he was talking about extreme obesity, and it's the treatment of choice, hands down, for that situation. If one seeks help from a regular MD one will be barreled down that road.
    Yes, and I do also understand that "other factors", which we've discussed, can be and frequently are involved. What's interesting about the two people I know was, whether or not their sizes could be characterized as "extreme obesity", both were able to pursue at least the average amount of "Activities of Daily Living", drive, shop, and so on, and both had jobs with very good health insurance (which makes one wonder how much more choice the treatment became with that factored in).

    Both only worked for a few months after the surgery before going out on permanent disability. So in terms of overall health, the surgery didn't accomplish much on that side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeanne
    (which makes one wonder how much more choice the treatment became with that factored in).

    Both only worked for a few months after the surgery before going out on permanent disability. So in terms of overall health, the surgery didn't accomplish much on that side.
    I totally agree and personally think it's a racket. Don't get me started. But then again, medicine only counts "weight loss" as the positive outcome. Which it accomplishes.

    Obesity is the site, not the source!
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    Is the by-pass surgery a reversable procedure?
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    Jarlo Ilano
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenhogg
    Is the by-pass surgery a reversable procedure?
    I've actually heard of people eating enough to expand the tissue that they had left, essentially "reversing" the procedure.

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