Neck roll

Hi, i've just about mastered the shinbox switch and knee switch, can do 40 reps each side, rest and so on for a about half an hour now.

I'd like to do something for the upper body and thought the neck roll looks like it would help me a lot.

What do need to achieve before I can try it, like would I have to have progressed onto the intermediate ww tape, or can I go straight into it?

I briefly tried it a while back and their was no way I could do it, I couldn't breathe at all.

I think it is the fear of compression and also the fact that you can't really see much and with me that means not very good awareness of gravity, balance etc

I think i'll just DO IT but i'll wait to see if any of you warn me against it.

Thanks!

[Scott Sonnon]

Ed,

Go slowly and go to the point where you can no longer exhale through the movement. Stop there. Begin again and keep exhaling. You can use your breath as a measuring stick to shave away the tension without reinforcing it, and as a result the Fear-Reactivity.

Excellent thanks Scott, i'll wait till tommorow now, it's a bit late here.

One ? following on from your advice is that when I do the knee switch, near the end of the forty reps i'm not exhaling on the compression, more when i'm fully over to the side when I get proper allignment again.

Is this something that could be counter-productive? I have no problem with the breath except it's not uniform as far as timing goes.

Thanks!

[amerasianjoe]

Ed,

In my experience it depends on what kind of tension you have. When I first tried the neck roll I could do it but I had a lot tension in my upper right trapezius. Then I learned the arm screw from Warrior Wellness and the now tension is gone. Keep at it!

Joe

[Coach Gostnell]

When Connie & I visited at Thanksgiving, I'd also been trying to accomplish the neck roll. We wanted a way to break it down into component parts to work on and came up with a helpful variation: (Trumpets please ) The Standing Neck Roll!

To wit: Stand close to and facing a wall. Start with the Arm Screw. Keep going bringing the head under as demonstrated in the prone version. Continue until your head is completely down and your back is against the wall. Finish by "unscrewing" to the opposite side you started on. Hips and legs should remain throughout more or less in the same position they started in.

Since my problem with the Neck Roll was getting my neck to actually roll,
this helped me "train" the upper body independently & effectively & later I was able to put the whole sequence together successfully. (And what a rush that was!)

[Scott Sonnon]

Brilliant! Article, please.

[Connie Brown]

Happy memories! Jean, what a blast to see us both plastered against the wall in the ballroom at McMenamin's Edgefield.

And I was very happy to see how quickly it translated to full success for the prone neck roll for you.

Do you have a camera for a picture for this? I really want the article to be illustrated!!!!

Connie

[maxmoon]

that is cool!

there is also a kneeling version of the neck roll that i like to do when i have no room to do it fully!

this is also a cool idea! awesome 8)

max

Thanks for the reply's!

Jean, that's a really good idea, thanks!

I second Scott's request for an article, would make life easier for us bodyflow newbies.

I went ahead and tried the neck roll, and I can't do it at all.

1, I don't have the core strength to move my hips up and over fully, which I think is where Jean's idea comes in, and I can't stand the pressure on the back of my head.

I think I know why, when I was a kid at school some idiot pushed me over and I didn't realise I was falling properley and the back of my head slammed into the ground.

I had a headache for days, and as I was so uncomunicative my parents didn't realise I had been pushed or how hard I hit my head.

Luckily I had a surgical balloon filled with liquid between my scalp and skull near the crown where I hit my head. This was from surgery I had numerous times which I think in itself may have caused fear-reactivity, but i'm not gonna go into that.

I think the problem must be when I hit my head cuz when I tried the neck roll, I remembered it and had the same kind of feeling as I had when I originally hit it.

Scott, do you think that, that kind of fear reactivity can be overcome?

It was a really long time ago and I haven't thought about it for a very long time, so me remembering it now must mean there's a link.

Of course I could be completely wrong, i'm not at a full understanding yet of fear reactivty, still haven't finished reading bodyflow.

I think if I can conquer the neckroll it will make a lot of difference and I think i'll focus on that for the time being.

I'll let you know how I get on. I think if it is gonna be as beneficial as my intuition says it will be, you might wanna research fearreactivity's link with surgery and then present it in an medical journal if you haven't done so allready.

I can see loads of possibility's with your work.

Thanks again everyone!

[Scott Sonnon]

Ed,

All Fear-Reactivity can be over-written through joy, play, compassion and patience.