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    Gym Observations

    Breathing Scale of Mastery

    Scale One: Resistance
    Fear or unconscious reactive breathing.
    A passively inhale and hold on perceived effort

    Scale Two: Force
    Anger or crude breathing
    Actively inhale and hold on perceived effort

    Scale Three: Skill
    Actively exhale on perceived effort; passive inhale on cessation of effort

    Scale Four: Expertise

    Passively exhale on compression, passively inhale on expansion

    Scale Five: Mastery
    Control pause after exhalation on activity

    Scale Six: Deepen Mastery
    Passively extend pause after exhalation on activity

    have recently been using treadmill interval work to train my cardiovascular health as well as my Performance Breathing™ with great success. I was inspired at CST Eta to apply Performance Breathing™ to running. I wanted to improve my running, jogging, and walking skills on the treadmill, so I decided to study the breathing, movement, and structure of the typical gym person who uses that machine. I wanted to compare my skills and self-mastery with those folks. Maybe I could learn something from their performance? I noted a number of typical patterns. Here is what I observed:

    Example one: The NEWBIE

    I have seen many Newbies inside the gym who have never used a treadmill before, and they usually display a breath scale of one or two. If they decided to increase the speed to test out their ability and hit a speed level that is beyond their control, they instantly, on a dime, passively inhaled and held on perceived effort. As they held on to the perceived effort, they quickly tried to hit the huge emergency stop button. It was amazing to watch their transition from normal breathing when they were simply walking on the treadmill to resistance breathing when they went beyond their comfort zone. Their whole body would instantly freeze up and brace over the treadmill as they tried their best to hit the big red stop button.

    Example two: The Heavy Foot Warrior

    The heavy foot warrior treadmill runners are not like the Newbies. Instead of passively inhaling from surprise or fear and holding their breath from perceived effort, they actively inhale and hold on perceived effort. You do not have to look at their breathing to figure out their level of intensity or mastery -- just listen to their heavy foot on the treadmill. They make a distinctive stomping noise upon impact, especially when they actively inhale and hold on perceived effort. The active inhale and hold usually occurs on the heavy foot strike. These folks don’’t know how to absorb force and to redirect it properly throughout their structure. I wonder why they suffer from joint pains?

    Example three: The Cardio Queen or King

    My favorite are the cardio queens. These people are found in group fitness classes like Spin, total body conditioning, cardio kickboxing, etc. They have an intimate knowledge of every cardio machine in the gym. They actively exhale on perceived effort and passively inhale on cessation of effort. They’’re more comfortable in their form and breathing than the Newbie and the heavy foot warrior and are definitely more skillful. However, they do make noise on the treadmill, but it’’s not as loud as the heavy foot warrior. These people are without fear, and they like to move their heads, hips, and limbs while on the treadmill for the sake of skillful cardio grooving.

    Example four: The Black Belt

    The treadmill black belt has a calmer face, proper biomechanical skills, and passively exhales on compression, passively inhaling on expansion. These folks fall into the expertise level, or breath scale of 4. They don’’t make any noise on the treadmill, but what you do hear is their breathing. I have noticed that they tend to exhale or compress when they strike their foot on the treadmill and passively inhale on expansion. This is how I run on the treadmill. I waited for the black belts to finish running, and I asked them if they were conscious of their breathing. They told me that they learned how to breathe thanks to their coaches in high school or college. Very few seemed to have learned it on their own.

    Example five: The Master

    The master on the treadmill has a control pause after exhalation on activity and seems to float when running, even at levels of speed that would likely kill the average person. The intensity level is not too challenging, or else they know how to control their perceived effort.

    Example six: The Guru

    The Guru on the treadmill passively extends a control pause after the exhalation. These gurus know how to vary their intensity, they know their own limits, and they can focus on refining their technique.

    Next time you are at the gym, pay close attention to how people breathe. A good student of CST/RMAX is mindful of his own breath as well as that of others.

    Bao Tran, CST
    Bao Tran, CST instructor

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    Thanks Bao for sharing your insights.

    I really liked the way you equated the levels of breath with the level of training/understanding in this scenerio. We sure can tell alot about a person from how they breath and move in any given situation.

    Mushtaq Ali has a recent article about this on his blog http://tracelesswarrior.blogspot.com/

    Enjoy.

    in peace,
    dianne

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    That's really interesting, Bao. Thanks for the observations. Thanks too Dianne for the link to Mushtaq's blog. I find myself looking around for dysfunctional breathing - my own of course !
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    Great obeservations, my friend! Article worthy :wink:

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    Brilliant! I've been trying to think of a way to ask about treadmill breathing for awhile now. I just came back from the gym. While on the ellipital machine I was thinking "am I breathing correctly?" What would Scott do? Seriously!

    Help me out here: When I'm not doing intense interval training on the ellipital machine/with upper body apparatus to push and pull also, I tend to take a complete breath every six to ten seconds. I'm not exhaling on every exertion, but my breath seems to stay within the same pattern. I may take a few steps or revolutions between the cycle of one complete breath. I don't remember how I got started doing this, but it feels natural, which still doesn't mean it's the most efficient way to use my breath. Is this an efficient use of my breath and body?

    I also try to display "no emotional attactment" to what I'm doing. I try to keep my facial expression blank.

    One other thing, since I'm using the machine that has my upper body and lower body working, I try to focus on initiating my movement from my center, and then through my shoulders and hips. I do this to teach my body to not think with just my hands and feet.

    Nonetheless, Bao that was an incredible piece of work. More please!
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    Robert,

    Thank you for seeing this value of my observations. I know many people at the gym including personal trainers who in the past doubted the value of CST/Rmax are now asking me to assess their breathing. This summer I have been so busy with work. It is awesome. The Summer is usually slow for Personal Trainers (not me).

    "Help me out here: When I'm not doing intense interval training on the ellipital machine/with upper body apparatus to push and pull also, I tend to take a complete breath every six to ten seconds."

    Robert, I know this machine pretty well. This machine is called "Precore" at my gym; usually it is suggested for people who prefer low impact cardio or those suffering from joint pains or overweight. I love it when the cardio queens are on it and women who have "hottie" written on the back side of their workout pants. I suggest that you vary your intensity level in the precore or start using the manual program. This way you can vary your own intensity level and still get a good interval effect. Have someone show you how to use the machine properly may be a good start as well.

    "I'm not exhaling on every exertion, but my breath seems to stay within the same pattern. I may take a few steps or revolutions between the cycle of one complete breath."

    If you lower the intensity level, you should be able to exhale when you about to glide or step foward down and between the next step you should breathe in. Treat it like if you were walking. Maintain good posture and start flowing, brother.

    "I don't remember how I got started doing this, but it feels natural, which still doesn't mean it's the most efficient way to use my breath. Is this an efficient use of my breath and body?"

    How natural is the precore? To me it is classic static linear cardio training.

    "I also try to display "no emotional attactment" to what I'm doing. I try to keep my facial expression blank."

    Nice!

    "One other thing, since I'm using the machine that has my upper body and lower body working, I try to focus on initiating my movement from my center, and then through my shoulders and hips. I do this to teach my body to not think with just my hands and feet."

    In this case, you should think hands and feet first then your center. Remember it is classic static linear training. You should start movement with your feet and hands and then focus your attention at your center. Sound opposite to CST/Rmax, but try it.

    "Nonetheless, Bao that was an incredible piece of work. More please![/quote]"

    Robert, once again thank you.

    Yours in CST,
    Bao
    Bao Tran, CST instructor

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    Great advice! Thanks for taking the time.

    I suggest that you vary your intensity level in the precore or start using the manual program. This way you can vary your own intensity level and still get a good interval effect. Have someone show you how to use the machine properly may be a good start as well.
    I've been using this machine for years. I always use the manual setting, for I'm usually doing Taku or Tabata interval training. I like it for the upperbody inclusion that the treadmills can't give you, which to me is more specific to how I'm going to use my cardio.
    I can still set the setting on very high or low intensity. I can't imagine someone out of shape doing this for a time period on high intensity.

    So, what I take is that I need to be using something closer to performance breathing. Exhaling on every exertion, instead of when my body naturally wants to exhale? I was always torn between the too methods for I felt as if I was overbreathing if I exhaled on every step forward.

    You don't know how long I've wanted to ask this. I really appreciate it.
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    Robert,

    I am glad it helped. I am doing another Bao gym experiment. (hee hee hee/ho ho ho <cough>) I need test subjects. Will keep you all updated.

    Yours in CST,

    Bao
    Bao Tran, CST instructor

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